Oh, nonono!!! Just please let them now about the idea and if they feel like wasting time on it is good, if not, is good too -as you mention, I kinda barely make enough gold to buy the monthly token, as shameful as it sounds to compesate them for their work is out of question for me-.
I´m aware this phoenix eyes are waaay more complext than resizing N´zoth / C´Thun eyes and putting them on the Velf/Belf model.
Btw, thank you for posting the ombré examples (now we just have to see what Fallynn et al think about them).
I´m just waiting for the other shoe to drop tbqh -ombré though in a different pattern to “flame” styles were proposed first by the paladin female in the Velf thread. She may get VERY annoyed (and I suppose, with good reason) we are exploring this know in here, who knows-.
Talking about phoenix stuff, I think you made some phoenix classification in your tattoo list, yes? /checks info
I have a question, when you proposed them Ashes and Phoenix, maybe something like this for the face could match the art proposed? (I know this is makeup but you can get the idea):
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/97e2cac3-ca6d-44e9-906b-550d19e15fb5/d5kn58o-ba5b34a7-67de-4a39-90be-c3cf353a6708.jpg/v1/fill/w_900,h_1200,q_75,strp/phoenix_makeup_by_multicharloww_d5kn58o-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTIwMCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzk3ZTJjYWMzLWNhNmQtNDRlOS05MDZiLTU1MGQxOWUxNWZiNVwvZDVrbjU4by1iYTViMzRhNy02N2RlLTRhMzktOTBiZS1jM2NmMzUzYTY3MDguanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTkwMCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.p7MbnX7p_uQDlYv4Bu_x7v8kQruOXR2TziymmPQRz48
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/e3/61/f5e36141c6547e6a3a8f3a9f241ffbd2.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/4b/26/164b26dab0e7686055916b836a18219f.jpg
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/91ec2c94-6798-4f2d-ad7b-92abaa8df3d1/d21wrln-4675aa01-8161-482e-bc6d-8e0cc6a937b2.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzkxZWMyYzk0LTY3OTgtNGYyZC1hZDdiLTkyYWJhYThkZjNkMVwvZDIxd3Jsbi00Njc1YWEwMS04MTYxLTQ4MmUtYmM2ZC04ZTBjYzZhOTM3YjIuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.nZtQMCbTJTrCCOIAowkI1HArEq7zg8AuVNUZngsEiDA
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/59/dc/e8/59dce81673b0ebdcee3f0d763ca025d3.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/0c/f1/790cf12e1c34abc2c3c48192dbb5445b.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/550x/c2/be/36/c2be361b4e089162b903ff0cb135830e.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/73/f0/8e73f0edf839d72981bc81e6d04a8cdb.jpg
https://previews.123rf.com/images/erstudiostok/erstudiostok1704/erstudiostok170400641/76698243-fantasy-art-makeup-man-with-black-painted-mask-on-face-close-up-portrait-professional-fashion-makeup.jpg
Finally, some examples to make male Dark Ranger marks (cause let´s be honest the available art only include females and I at least rather don´t get jewerly fiasco 2.0):
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/7f/13/137f1323e484ee52ff0144954a75c51b.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/compes/dar13t/goth-macho-hombre-en-maquillaje-goth-punk-subcultura-dar13t.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d4/d0/59/d4d0598952d257df729ccd98c0dbf863.jpg
https://decider.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/cursed-daniel-sharman-weeping-monk.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1200