please stop the premade groups in casual bg’s as they are making the game very unpopular with new and old characters. nothing more frustrating than getting into casual bg’s with people that have by server prices 400k worth of gear at 119 or at any of the twink levels below that or be kept in the graveyard for entire match. a match which they drag out as long as possible for achievements they are not good enough to get when normal geared. they are exploiting the que system as I have seen entire bg’s with all twinks but even 5 is too many as you can’t win with that kind of damage against you. last bg I was in on horde as mage…one shotted 7 times in a row by hunter at 119 with 110k health. killed by rogue that was riding mount while invisible and he had 82k health. the healer twinks can kill with one dot. this needs to stop…I report the cheats, I report the hacks but you have not been stopping them. it happens on both sides. the only fix to twinks is not to have them. stop the xp block…remove it from the game. the people that twink are ruining this game. you play casual to have fun not to spend the whole bg pissed off in the graveyard or 15 minutes as deserter waiting for another twink group to screw you again. you also screwed everyone with moneymaking in BOA and that made any chance at purchase mounts that cost 5 million gold go bye bye. now with pvp ruined and dungeons being a waste of time what is left? been playing this game since just before BC and twinks have allways been problem…but as they just piss people off there is zero need for them. people I know are now quitting the game because the last place they enjoyed was casual bg’s . now you are left with no choice. I stopped playing Overwatch, reason…cheaters…same reason I stopped playing every game I have ever played…when there is no point other than serving as victim for twinks and cheaters raiding is not longer possible without drama and dungeons are useless. all you have left is questing…lol…and get wrong gear from that and wrong lvl gear 370 quest…drops 355? really? please stop the twinks and fix your quests. maybe it’s time for a class action lawsuit .
There are good people on both sides. Even twinks
again…bg’s today…same thing…letting premade 5 many twink teams in bg’s ruins the game…no wonder people are pissed at your company and as stock holders so am I why the hell are you catering to a very small bunch of cheaters?
Might wanna try hitting your “Enter” key a few times when typing my dude. That is one massive wall of text, breaking it down into paragraphs makes it much easier for people to read.
And for the record, twinking =/= cheating. Hacking game files to fly in bgs is cheating. Running 3rd party programs that play the game for you while you’re at work is cheating. Using exploits to duplicate high value items and create currency out of thin air is cheating. Taking a toon and turning of xp and getting the best gear possible for that level is not cheating, in any way.
By definition they aren’t cheating which is probably why Blizz does nothing lol.
again…now two in a row of premade teams of twinks…WTF blizzard…stop the cheaters
Premades happen every level its a MMO
yes…is casual it’s cheating…10 players cannot join casual…try reading the tos
ignore the premade apologist
That’s why you’re not seeing 10 man premades. Your team likely just stinks real bad. Also, learn to use the enter key and such when posting.
I just reread it after skiming the first time and noticed your complaining about quest gear and that you quit overwatch because of premades too lol honestly you should just quit online games all together your playing the wrong kind of games dude
How is a premade cheating?
Because reasons.
Even if you get a 10 man premade, it not cheating it’s a well timed coordinated queues. That being said this is an mmo, mental to be played with friends. Don’t like queuing into 5 mans? Get 4 friends and que together.
I don’t agree with OP’s premise (I queue up with friends sometimes) but I do think there is a place for BGs filled only with random single queuers (with some measures applied to thwart synchronized single queueing).
How it should be implemented I don’t know, but I would like for it to be an option.
Casual PVP in an MMO should be a first-come first-serve fill list.
Stop catering to casuals.
it was winning. /s
To a degree it can be. Blizz changed the Join As Group to a 5 man limit. Which means their intention was to limit it to 5 man group queue, period. Is it cheating in Blizz’s eyes? Prolly not but I do think its silly to change it to a set limit then let addons overwrite their “policy”
Should just separate Join As Group and Solo casuals (and enforce it by disabling Addon bypasses). Would solve a TON of issues
I agree xp off and premades in regs is cheating. It wasn’t always available, and casual bgs used to be fun. There are essentially 2 issues:
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The wow community needs to look at itself. Why do you want to join competitions where your competitor can’t hit you back? How did you come to be a person where finding a virtual place to fight someone who can’t fight back is your main goal? Cause that’s what goes on with twinking, premades (and for that matter, most pet battles). It’s sad.
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There was solo q option: it was called regular bgs. Then they made social q available, and very next expansion (wod) they added twinks back to regs (instead of isolating the weird little xp off ppl with their own kind, which is where they belong). It totally ruined casual bgs, which is how most of play pvp. I have no idea why it made financial sense to blizz to cater to this creepy subgroup, but they should stop.
You people who call premades in a mmo cheating really need to look up what cheating means