Because your questions have absolutely nothing to do with the points I’ve made and are bad attempts to draw me into a separate discussion that I have zero interest in having, it’s really that simple. If anything were able to upset me from a random poster on these boards it would be the sheer ignorance of dismissing an idea simply because it has a streamer attached to it. I pretty well already knew most of this before even have watched both of those videos, they just added actual facts to the discussion and a way of addressing the same ignorant responses we’re still seeing on this thread.
If Blizzard truly wanted to end the mystery on this, they’d come out with a clear post on exactly HOW the automation works in this system and exactly how much human factor there really is in it, not just vague references, PR, and a complete lack of understanding of how their BG’s work. Hiding behind the excuses of “we don’t want to show bad actors how to avoid the systems” is extremely poor when innocent people have paid the price for this mystery. That is the literal opposite of how you promote a desire to play the game.
Blizzard has already said what’s automated and what is not. You only choose to believe them when it’s convenient to your false narrative. You don’t even understand how ludicrous what you believe is. You believe Blizzard has given this, THIS community the ability to automatically ban players by simply right-click reporting them. People still use the same two video examples from years ago as “proof” that players can ban each other with reports.
If right-click reports could automatically ban people, Asmongold could prove it by paying for 5, 10, 20 accounts or whatever it is he claims is the threshold for the ban to trigger. He could go around banning all the bots he complains about day and night. Discord communities could police their own servers. It’s not possible and I seriously doubt that you honestly believe that this community has been given GM banning powers with extra steps.
Do you think Blizzard rents the 160,000 square foot facility in Austin, Texas they house their CS department in for three people?
If answered correctly, they’d destroy your points. That’s why you’re desperately trying to make them appear to be irrelevant – they aren’t. The reason you refuse to answer them is because you either can’t or know that if you did, it would prove you wrong. Try again.
Asmongold’s ideas, which you’re parroting here, are being entirely dismissed outside of the fact that he’s a streamer. That’s what you’re failing to understand. You appear to be more hung up on the fact that he streams than I am.
Why have you copied his ideas word for word then? Are you sure about that?
They have.
If what they have already explained isn’t enough for you, what will be? You must be misunderstanding their explanation, because anymore detail and they’d essentially give trolls full power to skirt the system. Is that what you’re looking for?
A very real thing actually, your dismissal of it is suspicious. Is that your goal here? More info to skirt the system?
No, the good absolutely DOES NOT outweigh the bad. When innocent people are suspended from a paid service due to terrible systems, that is FAR worse than bad people getting to play the game a bit longer until an actual human reviews the data and initiates action. You literally saw, if you bothered to, a clear example of people getting actioned, 100% by automation, due to mass reporting. That’s every bit as exploitable as knowing the rules, which honestly sounds kind of farcical to say, in order to avoid them.
I also am not “parroting” anything. I’ve said from the start of this ban wave, even before he posted videos, this stuff is automated, that’s not an idea I got from him. He simply has the direct experience and empirical evidence to show.
Yes, it ABSOLUTELY does. The alternative would be bots and trolls being able to skirt the line without ever getting caught. It’s starting to make sense why that alternative may be preferable to you.
Who is getting suspended due to “terrible systems”? What have you made up this time?
I saw people getting SQUELCHED, which yes, does more good for the game than harm. Sorry that you can’t spew your tyrades in chat channels unchecked.
You forget that false reports are easy to track and are bannable themselves. Do you know the basics of the EULA? Have you read the EULA? Do you even know how the systems you’re criticizing work? The further we go on, the further you prove to me that you do not.
Verbatim, you have said exactly what streamers have said.
Your first post is from today, so I find that hard to believe.
Ok, so you have no idea what empirical evidence is?
You’re automatically assuming a worst case where no system at all is in place which is patently absurd. No, the correct answer here is a human with a brain is involved in any account action, even if Blizzard has to spend a bit more money to pay them and it takes just a bit longer to act on.
And there’s only so many ways you can say that no automation is a lie, I don’t even know how that’s a thing to bring up. I’ve also posted before on this thread (using a different character), and discussed with people in Discord, etc. I was the guy who pointed out your completely made of standard of proof about “watching your friends 24/7” was essentially bs. Again this is all irrelevant unless you just want to continue focusing on pointless minutiae.
No, I’m assuming EXACTLY what you are requesting, which is that Blizzard detail every step of their moderation process which allows trolls and bots to skrit the system and avoid detection. There’s a reason NO COMPANY in the world does what you’re requesting, and that’s because it’s foolish.
Except squelches, because, again, you simply aren’t going to get away with unchecked tyrades in chat channels here. Sorry, but it’s not going to happen. You don’t have free speech here and the community has every right to TEMPORARILY silence you. That’s what a squelch is, a TEMPORARY silence. Don’t say anything egregious and you won’t get squelched. It’s that simple. This is why the system does more good than harm. The idea that people get squelched due to random mass-report mobs is not only not true, but absurd.
Automation doesn’t work in the way you are trying to force it. That’s, again, what you’re failing to understand.
Oh, so I’ve already bested you in debate once? Interesting.
Translation: “I’m losing so this is irrelevant!” Do you think this tactic ever works?
Claiming victory points out of thin air on a discussion board, I’d be surprised but I’m not, I guess.
And how does explaining, properly, what does or doesn’t get you banned while in a BG, or how much human interaction there really is in their system entail what you are saying? Because that’s all I recall asking for.
They already do explain properly what does and doesn’t get you banned. PARTICIPATE. DON’T EXPLOIT. Those are the only rules. What else do you realistically need to know here?
They’ve already answered this. Did you not understand their explanation?
LOL, what do I need to know? Well people clearly did participate and got banned anyway. And alot of us are still confused on what constitutes participation, when you have blue posts claiming that defending a tower solo isn’t, you know, dumb stuff like that.
You know, basically the core of my whole point that I simply don’t buy the idea that these systems work, or what we’re being told about them, particularly in regards to the amount of automation.
You mean you’ve been white-knighting their policies all this time and you’re not even aware of the blue post from Aug 2nd laying this fun little factoid out, that was also discussed extensively already in this thread.
not yet but i am appealing again the fact that i was banned for 30 days for defending towers
Seems also was mass reported as well for being a DK according to this forum either way its unacceptable that i got banned for 30 days for defending towers or being a DK
In the over 100 AVs i did i didnt get the deserter debuff once
I’m aware of many blue posts. I want to know which SPECIFIC blue post you’re talking about.
I’ll take your refusal to cite the post as your concession then.
Ok, sorry but that means we really can’t take what you say at face value. Those that are serving a suspension aren’t going to openly admit “yeah I was AFK.” I have no idea why you were banned, only you and Blizzard do. If you ask prisoners why they’re in jail, most of them will try to downplay their crimes as well.
Then go look it up yourself, I’m not a school teacher or inclined to do your own job of informing yourself. Nor the type to come into a discussion half-cocked, invent my own goalposts and set victory marks on that. This is my last response to you.