I don’t think leaving games had anything to do with it, but I have been surprised before.
I am worried if there are gonna be more ban waves. I assume there will be. A bunch of the people I play with have been saying that people are spam reporting so badly in BGs now that even if you are actively fighting you will get the AFK debuff and have to go into combat again to drop it.
https://i.imgur.com/5O7D5yM.png
Here’s a GM response I received when I asked about playing defense, and defending bunkers…
I did this A LOT actually. I don’t want my kids to see me playing games so i often close my laptop in the middle of a game lol.
Guy gets caught Botting/AFKing in AV, gets upset about it…
Really the only two good solutions right now to insure you don’t get banned are:
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Don’t do AV.
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When you do AV just run into the enemy and AOE. Get those metrics up. It might be the most worthless thing you can possibly do but its what is being observed. So until they have to start banning people for “you just zugzug’ed” then its probably the safest call.
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They need to look at it like it is now. Most of the ppl on that bg does not end up doing any form of pvp on it now.
They would have to buff things a lot more to force pvp and we know they wont cause that would take more effort than reward for them.
Run into enemy…get reported for wasting reinforcement since ur not participating the way the rest of the group wants.
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It absolutely does “excuse” people. They are playing the game as intended. Blizzard designed the bgs as the most effective and efficient way to level, especially when rested and the new bonus xp. If you only queue AV, even on non av weekend, you won’t use up rested xp and get bonus xp. I level 9 levels in two days with moderate play. I also received approx 65k honor. The only thing even close to that is if rdf was in the game and you had rested experience. You don’t have to like it, but then you don’t have to play the game either. I don’t like rdf is being left out of wotlk. I can choose to play or not, but that is about it.
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Dont’ want to get banned? don’t AFK. Every single AV I do, there are tons of people afking for a few mins at a time. I get the occasional food/bathroom break, but most people just seem to alt tab and do other stuff while they flag they are defending gets stormed.
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Just gonna point that RDF has a much more effective method for players to deal with afk’s directly than giving them an easily removed debuff. And I really really doubt you want that in BG’s.
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You realize arguing the difference between an account silence and ban or suspension is literally the semantics word game Asmongold addressed in his video, yeah? These recent blue posts have made a point to skew the conversation away from automation, but there absolutely IS automation in their account action system, and this has been literally proven repeatedly over the past 10 years. To think it doesn’t apply to a ban or suspension or whatever is taking a giant leap of faith based on some extremely poorly worded blue posts.
EVEN IF a human is involved at some point, and that point or degree is highly debatable and vaguely alluded to, there’s a poorly driven automated system that is in play here and led directly to the false positive bans, and that’s evidenced by the fact they have reversed so many and reduced many more. So trying to make any sort of argument against the automation that is, again, clearly in play, is honestly just absurd.
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You realize that an account silence isn’t even automated, right? A SQUELCH is NOT the same as silence. It would be wise to familiarize yourself with how this works before trying to discuss it on the forums.
So, your response is more word games, got it. To borrow a meme from Asmon:
“It’s not a ninja, it’s a surprise reservation”
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It’s not word games, it’s a fact. Nuance in language that you don’t understand is not a “word game”.
Are all your ideas from streamers?
Not all, but this was a particularly good point and example he used, in all honesty. The language they are using, like avoiding the use of “ban” in their blue posts to avoid that sense of permanence and using “suspension” instead, is part of this word game they’re playing and obfuscating the issue. What’s the difference between a chat suspension and chat ban? Nothing. And you’re clearly playing right into it by diving in the minute differences between different actions, when the truth is they’re all account actions. And if one can be automated, and has been for quite a long time, which is absolute fact, then it is far more likely most if not all others are as well, at least to some degree.
This is all also ignoring the fact that the trend with nearly all tech-touching companies today is moving towards more AI and automation. It makes absolutely sense that Blizzard would want to save money by relying less on people with wages and more on automated systems. It’s far more of a stretch to believe otherwise.
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Are you sure? Everything you’ve said so far is referencing a streamer or directly taken from them.
A squelch is completely different from either a suspension or ban. That’s what you’re failing to understand. Neither suspensions nor bans are automated, SQUELCHES are, but those do not count as either of those things, because they are FUNDAMENTALLY different. Again, you should familiarize yourself with the topic outside of what your favorite streamers say.
Do you even know the difference? Can you explain it?
Do you know why squelch is automated?
This fact is completely irrelevant, so yes, it will continue to be ignored.
Sure, if you do enough mental gymnastics and buy into those streamer conspiracies, exactly as you have for the past few posts.
I’m curious, what about referencing a streamer has tilted you so badly in this discussion that you felt the need to mention this through 3 different bullet quotes?
You’re not even addressing what I said, you’re simply going off on a tandem about me referencing a streamer, who, along with others, have unequivocally proven the automation in their account system so mentioning them is relevant to the discussion. And otherwise you’re only fixating on the differences between the account actions and dismissing the idea that a company who develops code and definitely does rely on automation for this system isn’t using it for certain other actions, despite evidence showing otherwise. This isn’t a real discussion, so if that doesn’t change I’ll simply not engage you further and let you go back to managing your multiple companies.
They’ve proven there’s an automatic chat mute (squelch). An automatic squelch that Blizzard has admitted exists dozens of times over the last 15 years. Congratulations.
Suspensions and bans are not the same thing.
Nothing about it has tilted me. I’m just giving you the facts. Does that tilt you?
I addressed everything you’ve said. I’ve asked you questions which you’ve yet to touch.
They’ve proven that squelches are automated… which Blizzard has been very open about. And that’s all they’ve proven. So, good job? They’ve proven something that Blizzard already confirmed?
Squelch is fundamentally different from other account actions though, that’s what you have continued to fail to understand. Likely because you haven’t actually looked into it and you’re just parroting what your favorite streamer said, yes?
You’re right, it isn’t, as evidenced by your refusal to answer any of my questions. That’s because you can’t answer them, because streamers haven’t answered them already for you to copy their responses, right?