I’m just not the kind of person that finds it fun being carried or one shot
I even refuse to let my friends carry me through a ZA on a fresh toon. Absolutely hate it
Because I want the Brutal gear, so it’s either level in AV or come back at 70 and do it anyway. Currently level 67 with around 35k honor.
Youd be surprised how good the XP is in AV. Its 7-8k per tower taken. Its 12k per win and like 8k for a loss. You can get like 36k xp per AV you do and AVs take like what, 15 minutes max? thats 140k an hour of XP and you aren’t paying a bot to take your in Slabs or Sethek. Also, its allowed. Blizzard made it possible for people to level in AV at a pretty good rate, why wouldn’t people do it considering you get honor along the way and can use that on sunwell equivalent gear when you hit 70.
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No one enjoys that but the rewards are too good to ignore, blizzard should’ve kept it 61-69 and have an exclusive level 70 AV, half the frustrations would be fixed but that’s for another thread.
i agree, but do we don’t know their history just verbal anecdotes unfortunately and people will save face as much as possible.
I leveled my dk through av starting at level 63, I had no problem mowing down fresh 70 boosters.
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Right, but the annoying part of this… is you are less useful running way down, getting stuck north and dying repeatedly trying to get back, then someone sitting tower that is getting banned because they aren’t engaging in combat if the enemy team doesn’t back cap in a match. It’s nonsense.
Edit: Not talking about you specifically. I just mean when people do this.
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That seems pretty low right? Found random dk groups and we were getting over 300k/hour
Yep, my DK has more HP then 70 boosts. Their gear is so bad.
Everyone got 31 days exactly, seems like everyone got painted with the same brush
Maybe they needed to be though. It can go either way without the raw data
i’d rather have someone try to get to south than someone afk in a tower with 0 damage/heals.
What I don’t understand is people that are upset about the low/minimal damage players defending will be the first to type in BG chat how we’re going to lose because no one defended.
EDIT: Sorry wasn’t responding directly at you VTM must have just hit the button there instead of at the bottom.
I’ve seen very useful low level dks and fully geared people being wasted slots
So I’m not talking about that. I just personally can’t do something when I’m not pulling the weight I could be
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I used to start at tower D when i didnt have good gear and would just slow them down as much as i could as a mage. When that was over i would then go to base into dreks room and repeat with the aoe spec for leveling which is great slowing the hell out of them and freezing them so drek could just wreck them.
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It is obvious this was a recipe for disaster.
They make brutal gear available for Honor and on top of that hard nerf the cost while adding the death knight brutual set.
Fresh 70 boosts and fresh DK’s all realize this is the most effective way to farm gear by spamming AV.
The meta that the player base has established for AV is setup in a way that encourages unusual behavior, waiting for towers to cap and rushing to the enemy commander.
So many AV games are insanely fast as many groups pull as soon as 2 towers are capped. This could easily create cases where a player was capturing and defending a tower and the game suddenly ends in a matter of minutes.
Aside from all of this, the overwhelming majority of the player base can agree a 30 day suspension without any notification or warning is absurd.
We can end the discussion on right versus wrong and focus the discussion on progress being made.
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Out of my 3 friends and I,
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Afks every game at the flag, runs to van and the game is usually over before he even gets to Van (not banned)
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Goes to cave to skill up weapons and fights alliance in back towers trying to get them back (not banned)
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Goes to the cave to afk 10 out of 30 games, the rest of the games plays hard to win by capping towers back and fighting alliance (banned 31 days)
Me: Afk about 5 out of 30 games in cave, other games play super hard to win (banned 31 days)
I think afking in the cave gets you banned but 31 days is too harsh of a punishment.
yup, good point a lot of people miss. even low level rogues can cc/interrupt the hell out of people.
Maybe but i think you will second guess doing it those 5 times out of X games again. Wouldn’t suprise me if people were doing this on other chars on their acct capn the 75k honor prior to prepatch and got nailed this banwave with cummulative reports across that acct. /shrug
Agreed.
I think defending even with 0 damage should not be ban worthy however for the worry about players who are afk farming mobs I get that one just remove mob xp from AV and it solves that specific problem.
There are definitely a few ways to promote gameplay and minimize on players abusing the area they’re in for pure personal benefit.
Afking in the cave should just be reported like they used to and kicked from the BGs. If they run out hit someone and go back to the cave to resume AFK then they should be banned in incremental amounts but not straight to a month ban.
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