It seems like they are unbanning people a few at a time as the reports have been coming in. there are plenty of appeals that have not been answered yet.
Meanwhile you have orange text on other forums spreading “if the logs don’t back non-participation then you have nothing to worry about” and trying to gaslight everyone.
Blizzard does have logs, but I’m worried they don’t tell the whole stole.
But at the same time if someone does very little damage or healing every AV, they’re intentionally not participating.
People are trying to defend the hypothetical zero damage BG. Obviously one Bg can happen where you don’t do damage or get HKs, not 30 in a row if your “actively participating”
Let’s not pretend the people trying to say “defending SHB helps you win” are doing it for any other reason than they’re just being lazy. Plenty of other ways to help win that someone who is watching the game unfold would notice
People are getting banned for maybe having 10 of these 0 damage bg’s in 100 total ran. The more you ran, the higher chance of being caught up in this ban.
Unless you were literally zerking the other team every game.
And yes, I have lost many a game because the other team back caps iwb and shb, so having at least 5 people there is helping.
I’m not pretending that everyone was innocent. But I’m also not going to pretend the whole “if the logs don’t back non-participation then you have nothing to worry about” gaslighting is true either, because if that were actually true, then there wouldn’t have been such a massive net catching innocents in the process.
I’m just tired of the “Blizz does no wrong” gaslighting and whiteknighting.
Had a game last night where both factions recapped the middle nodes and delayed Van/Drek.
Horde had 2 dks, one 70 and geared the other maybe 63 sitting in Drek’s room asking who the tank is and who is the best geared healer.
They were a big reason we won. People doing stuff like that and getting banned is a crime, but people sitting in a node waiting to be wiped or it to cap, that’s another story
It’s not another story. It’s literally how the battleground is supposed to be played.
I 100% agree with you. This is one of those, is it moral to have one innocent man in jail situations.
How come you didn’t swap to WSG after the weekend hit? Just curious
If you sat in 30 bunkers in a row, never once analyzing the situation and moving to a new location or joining a back cap group, that’s not how the game is supposed to be played
I didn’t bg during the weekend. I did them on Tues/Wed/Thurs.
Always move to go to next bunker, or north to Vann when the bunker I am guarding caps.
Some games straight to north bunkers, some games to balinda first then iwb, some straight to shb. Always move when it caps.
I mean I’ve told you I don’t think that crosses the line of not participating. Think you were a victim of a bad system.
But at the same time the majority of other people capping bunkers were doing it to be lazy
Nothing worse than sitting there dead after defending and dying and watching an afk not defend the flag. Agree there.
I maybe did 35 AVs total this week. Every single one I capped stonehearth because as a feral you can cat jump up instantly.
Maybe 10 of those total I stayed to defend. No point when there are 8 other people there. The rest I tried to back cap or went to Van.
The people trying to argue they weren’t AFK and defending it either don’t have the little mental capacity I do, or they were just being lazy
I would say no, it’s not acceptable to have one innocent man in jail, particularly as this is an issue that isn’t jail worthy. If you want a real life comparison, I’m going to compare it to jaywalking.
Jaywalking is technically illegal, but lots of people do it anyway because if you’re on a street with long distances between crosswalks or long times between walk cycles, and no cars are coming, sitting and waiting for the light to change so you can cross or walking all the way to the crosswalk when your stop is right across the street is dumb. Ignoring people who get hit by cars because they didn’t look, because unobservant people are going to be unobservant, if you’re caught jaywalking, the penalty is a nominal fine, and the odds of being caught are low enough that no one cares and does it anyway.
The stated penalty for afking in bgs is a nominal “get the deserter debuff for half an hour and get kicked from the battleground”. Banning people for a month when the stated penalty is the deserter debuff is like telling people who were caught jaywalking that they’re now getting life in prison for jaywalking. The punishment doesn’t fit the advertised penalty for the crime.
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Actually the rule change happened a while ago. There was a similar ban wave in the BC prepatch. Blizz even addressed it.
It’s always been in the ToS across all blizzard games that not actively participating is a bannable offense
I want it super clear though, obviously I don’t want the people who were playing and contributing banned. I want to win every BG, those people help.
I don’t want people watching movies and sitting in a bunker every game with no intention of adjusting to the battle ground grouped with me though
I still haven’t heard anything back yet but I know a few people were unbanned last night without any answer to their tickets. I also know there are many more still waiting that played with those people or did the same things as them. Just gotta wait out the massive ticket line and hopefully we start seeing more unbans.
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Hope you get it soon.
I am glad to see though that it wasn’t an auto unban for everyone. Sure 30 days is too much, but the degenerates don’t deserve to see another BG this xpac
Good luck to you, hope that everyone who was incorrectly banned gets unbanned.
Your guild name might not be appropriate for today’s new mentality
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