BfA will never be worse than WoD, and unless SL has no major content updates, neither will it

Battle for Azeroth is just an average expansion. It’s not terrible, but it’s not phenomenal. It’s just average.

However, at the end of the day, there are still things to do in this expansion, whether mediocre or not, so to say BfA is objectively on equal footing or worse than WoD is utterly false.

And unless Shadowlands comes out with no content past max level, and its first major content update is some bizarre social media integration nobody asked for, then it won’t be either.

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Wod was good, in terms of quality of its contents (mostly).

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8.3 is the worst patch i’ve ever played tho I avoided the entirety of wod

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Yeah I mean the dungeons and raids were great. But that’s literally all there was. The argument against WoD was about quantity and availability, really.

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Hmm for me I had more fun in WoD than BFA personally. Both were definitely the worst WoW expansions though.

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WoD was by far the worse in good will and honesty from the dev team to their customers. Their deception about flying told me they could not be taken at their word. And now we face their backlash for pointing out their lying with pathfinder and time gating.

Legion was by far the worse in game design and lack of response to RNG and item acquisition (It was finally fixed way too late).

BFA never got out of beta and the grinding borrowed power systems were never through out and felt made up each patch to make up for refusing to deal with the talents we already had. BFA was the death to competitive alts.

SL is only going to be more time gated grinding for borrowed power systems. This is the new design, gone are normal talent trees and getting gear, it is now endless farming and you better guess right which covenant is bis or you will be behind. Alts are still gated behind grinding and non-gear items for power.

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That’s where you’re wrong.

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Truth.

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WoD was better than BFA. I had more fun in WoD.

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I had more fun as well and I think it was because of the zones we were in, lots of good memories from BC. Still not a good xpac, but not worse than legion and bfa.

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Wrong wod lacked content but had decent class design and end game system. Id rather have nothing to do but have fun doing few things than tons of garbage that feels awful to play.

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In agreement, WoD is the worst expansion ever created for many reasons.

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WoD > BFA

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Its all opinion at this point, but I agree.

WoD was just incomplete; an expansion that had a beginning, an end and no middle whatsoever. It will forever be the bottom of my list for that.

BFA is just meh but I didn’t find it awful (edit) but that’s probably because I barely touched any content beyond the open world, Heroics and LFR this time around.

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I look at this game differently than most, but the art team seems to exponentially raise the bar higher each expansion. The lore team of course is headed nadir, literally and figuratively.

I respectfully disagree. BFA has been the worst expansion for me, the only expansion i have taken multiple month+ long breaks in as well as the lowest PvP participation for me which is what i used to like the most. Most of my friends have quit, and honestly i don’t blame them. At least WOD PvP was solid/good for crying out loud, i just want that back.

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thanks for regurgitating someone else’s bad take

Warlords had massive hype and as ridiculous as the storyline was, it was sold to me by those great cinematics and Warlord lore videos. It’s just it stopped there. It didn’t even last the leveling process before storylines were obviously and dramatically cut. It went nowhere the entire time. Nowhere at all. Just shoved the Legion in and Grom getting a pat on the head at the end but Yrel becomes the bad guy later for reasons. It was painfully rushed, cut and awful. Where was the cool Ogre plotline? The Warlords characterisation? The meaningful consequences for the Horde past and present? Haha noooooo no, no, just nope. Nothing. It sucked.

That is to say nothing of class design which in some cases was actually good but its ideas were scrapped or indeed PVP which was just Ashran before it had the only hope of being good strangled in the name of ‘balance’. That balance wasn’t achieved, of course, but the content was shredded for it and nobody liked it ever. There’s also garrisons which I liked because free stuff and money is good. Is that bad overall? I dunno maybe but it let me start playing the game for free so I did and never looked back.

What did BFA do? Suck from the start like Warlords BUT it got better with Essences and worse with Corruptions. The Azshara patch was really good. Nazjatar and Mechagon were great outdoor content and fun to do for what they were and Essences were fun meaningful additions to classes in ways that Azerite could never really deliver on.

Warlords had Shadowmoon Valley which is the most beautiful zone ever made. It even had an uncorrupted Black Temple, not that it was ever really used. That sums up the expansion- something great that never gets used and is forgotten. Is BFA going to be remembered for anything like that? Just corruption silliness. Just contempt for it like Warlords. Just stupid Sylvanas storylines. Nothing good. Warlords at least had hype that BFA didn’t. It was just a trainwreck with some good in the middle and then nothing. Ever since 8.3 I have just been waiting for it to be over and done with. Hell once I saw SL release I wanted to play that and not this stupid pointless patch.

I would take WoD any day over what the game has become today, namely World Of Diablocraft.

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Depends on what feature of the game.

WoD in my opinion has one of the best introductions to the game so far. It doesn’t have much but it remains consistent. It fell apart after the failure to implement what was promised for the expansion.

I was drawn into WoW through the Legion/BfA system.

BfA felt it was scattered a bit in terms of plot. Each patch is something different and felt different; Nazjatar was very nice especially once you got flying and it felt like there was a ton to discover in the zone behind the whole dailies/etc. Pandaria and Uldum don’t have the same feel. It was as though this expansion has been several different expansions in one.

Testing out the PTR I’m happier than I anticipated regarding the classes I plan to play. As a much I’ve normally had to rely on twisted appendage and lash for my corruptions and it doesn’t feel quite so bad to lose them as it does on my stat-based ones.

Overall though I am happy with the way the game is, and Shadowlands looks like something I’ll enjoy immensely. Especially with the gap closer legendary and Venthyr I’m in for a good time.