Survival is one of the most fun specs to play. Wish the numbers were a little better but that’s a whole other issue.
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No, just giving some thought towards the class that I do towards hybrids (players of particular classes that can heal that don’t want to heal, DPS, or tank) and that’s getting away from the idea of tribalism - that one spec is naturally better than the others, and if that’s the one I’m most comfortable with then that’s what I should stick with - and more towards the idea of generalism, or accepting that every spec is good at something that other specs are not, and that it’s in your best interests to know what they are instead of dismissing them outright.
Now specialization is fine. I raid a lot, so of course I spend a lot of time on MM, but when I go into M+, I grit my teeth and run BM because MM isn’t the right tool for the job. That’s because overspecialization can be crippling - if you chose to do M+ as a MM, you’re literally trying to jam a Phillips-head screwdriver into a Torx socket: if fits, but just barely, and if you push too hard, the weakness become quickly apparent.
The tools for dealing with all sorts of content are right in front of the hunter, but they’re in different toolboxes: if you want to do everything available to you, you have to learn everything available to you, and if you want to excel into those things, you have to choose the right tools. One spec is boring as hell because yeah, the rotations are simple and it gets old fast, but learning a second or third one can be a lot of fun as you learn about the strengths and shortcomings about your specs, and thus, you get better at the class as a whole.
That being said, not sure SV would work in M+. Would be nice if it did.
Dead is an absolute blast to watch.
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Survival is actually one of the best designed specs in game pvp wise anyways and I’ve always had fun as survival pre legion and bfa as well. It’s been a super fun and rewarding spec to play.
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I and many other hunters said this all the way through alpha and beta. blizz doesnt care. they have a “vision” for it and do it. they will not listen to players anymore. im sorry but im done with blizz and how they just do what they want without any thought of how it will play. we all tried too much already.
Then why are you posting? just get lost
If they don’t bring back ranged survival bring it back in marksmen. bake it in. I don’t care if it muddies up MM’s identity i want it in. Taking away ranged survival with out having a pure option available is messed up.
I had a lot of fun with it at first. Then I realized nobody wanted to give me that melee slot, instead favoring the more “traditional” melee classes/specs.
I’m having a lot of fun with survival. Fighting side by side with my pet feels really cool.
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conjecture. honestly you all need to just stop. you lost this argument over a year ago. if it had caused even close to the waves you all seem to think it caused then it would have been reverted 2 years in. it hasn’t so its here to stay
no that’s not being honest. the damage is great from range. and aspect of the eagle works just fine
your opinion. not fact
more opinion. and the wrong opinion honestly. for pvp its top 3-4 melee at this point. in pve its perfectly viable in all content.
this! everyone forgets that the only reason it was ever played by a good % of hunters was when its damage was broken. most hunters went to bm for the pet love or MM for the archer type spec.
lololol soo truee
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how bout no
ill take this challenge. monks are tough but I eat rogues for breakfast. dhs are tough but every other melee besides monk and dh I have found pretty easy to beat as sv. you have to dynamically change your talents for every fight
kiting isn’t always doing damage. the definition of kiting is creating space between you and your opponent. trackers net is great for that
lol why not just interrupt him?
Blizzard literally admitted that they knew melee Survival would be an unpopular spec and they defend unpopular things all the time. Even so, they did remake Survival 2 years in with a major compromise towards ranged. What a catastrophically bad argument (albeit typical of you).
Aspect of the Eagle is only available sometimes and is a short duration. A huge chunk (up to half) of your damage is wrapped up in Mongoose Bite so outside of that Eagle window your ranged damage is pretty pitiful.
Yes, which is why he used the word “feels”. It’s still a very valid and relatable opinion. You’re consistently failing to detail why being melee is a positive thing, along with about 100% of all other SV Hunters. All you’re doing is describing qualities that could easily exist for a ranged Survival. Hell, most of them did exist for ranged Survival and were actually better then. For example, why the hell is a melee spec focused around kiting? That’s laughably paradoxical and self-contradictory.
Why, then, is Survival’s arena representation in the lower-middle part of the rankings and constantly slipping?
What kind of delusion does it take to look at such a blatantly incorrect post with multiple replies explaining in detail why it’s incorrect (without rebuttal from Mikesvage) and think “Yep, he knows what he is talking about”? No, you’re flat out wrong as per usual. SV was typically more popular than MM and even BM for many patches. I’m not inclined to repost my debunking of Mikesavage’s rambling so you are free to scroll up and read it and probably come up with another fallacious, deflecting reply. After all, Mikesavage fled the thread after he got called out so maybe he’s counting on you to fill in for him.
And Survival’s core audience is a bunch of Warrior rerolls who think they are entitled to a third DPS spec at the expense of another class. See: broad, generalising attacks are fun!
I think you’re full of it, frankly, particularly since the representation of Assassination in rated PvP is about triple that of a SV Hunter. Even as an MM Hunter in BGs I’ve been able to hold up against SV Hunters and MM Hunter is famously terrible at PvP right now.
You know what’s also good for kiting?
Being ranged.
Ranged SV was better at kiting than melee SV could ever hope to be.
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Only in WoD, when it had Frozen Ammo.
You’re wrong there, ranged survival in mop was better than its iteration in Wod.
lower cool down on traps along with a free root when you land them made all of the traps useful. Along with more pet utility than what we have today. If they bring back ranged survival which im definitely onboard with it should be brought back through talents offered through mm to a better degree than what we have now.
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No, the shorter CDs were nice, not having to worry about Concussive was nicer. MoP SV was just as easy for me to Kite as BfA and Legion SV.
you’re right about the shorter cd’s for the traps and that’s what made it useful.
Other than that i do notice the take away from ranged survival and how it’s missed, but im not so cruel as to say they should completely take away melee survival. A 4th spec hopefully but i don’t see it happening which is why i say they should do a better job of baking it into mm which is what i think they may attempt to do with the new heart of azeroth neck peice customization**(hopefully)**.
Next expansion maybe.
Learn to play the spec and you probably wouldn’t have such a hard time…
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