well you see…going off the tweet of eventual scaled harder content with reward this is the only viable way some see.
wrath will need affixes.
30% more mobs…is more trash killing. readily done months in when raid is hit hard. or they could aoe limit cap. that is a retail feature. that even ion turned off for most classes. diminishing returns was put in. #nochange 3566 for classic?
HP sponge bosses…okay boys and girls. what we did 20 times now. Do it 10 to 20 times more.
there is another way. Rewrite all bosses and use new boss mechanics. now good old boss x is really new. they are whipping out…margrave’s slime tentacles. think of if like a baby safety dance for non retailers. so #nochange3567.
I think classic folk might actually like stitchflesh if they dropped him in. very fitting and organic to wrath. as are most maldraxxus based bosses.
Mythic affixes are what makes retail dungeon hard. otherwise it be heroic with more trash and hp sponge bosses. and the timer pressure ofc.
this is what makes necrotic weeks hated by many. some SL dungeons already slap the dots on you. necrotic affix says here is even more for ya. and it stacks. just in case you wanted even moar…no need to ask. necrotic affix is the gift that keeps on giving.
Yeah you say that your favorite time with beginning heroics in tbc Most people didn’t like doing them because of it I mean it’s kind of stupid when literally the 1st raid of the tier is harder than a 5 man content.
And maybe you enjoyed that but speaking as a paladin tank I didn’t I did not enjoy using concentrate how many decades stuff because I knew if it hit me it would borderline one shot me even with Defense capped.
And some heroics were just unduelable Without the right composition that’s not a fun thing What a surprise once people finally got gear and they nerved heroics more people wanted to do them.
If it’s supposed to be entry level content not in game rating If now could they possibly put a mythic plus style sure but it shouldn’t be in heroic.
It should be something separate heroes are completely fine they’re supposed to be easy If not hard as nails.
On top of that it Helps with the meta people are going to be more willing to bring your shadow priest Your elemental shaman’s and what not if heroics are easier to do.
That’s kind of one of the problems in TBC if you’re a rogue Or a not meta Is DPS AKA a hunter or a warlock or a mage Yeah good luck getting a group for Unless you’re already geared to the gills.
So yeah that’s why I say heroics are fine
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Sounds like that is their problem. The game is already complete. You don’t go back to an old game and get upset that it is still the same game.
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We’re not arguing against the 15 trolls on this forum… Blizzard is literally going against almost the entire real community with this decision.
They are doing it because they want to squeeze out as many Boosts as possible.
What blizzard fails to understand, is if its a pain to run dungeons and gear up an alt… nobody is boosting a 70 alt… they would be more inclined if RDF was in… but again… blizzard is not very smart.
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The game should obviously be as exact of a copy as possible which means RDF should be there. However, this thread was about the game being too easy. As if they should re-tune the game to make it harder.
Yeah in WotLK dungeons are just rifts from Diablo aka free loot.
Dungeons are fun especially some of the classic end game dungeons. But ya WotLK went the opposite way of tbc.
Decades? The game hasn’t even been out for two.
I think you misunderstand what I mean for what you are quoting. It was towards players that wanted to speed run everything and get to the end game as fast as possible.
Just because the game is completed doesn’t mean it needs to be played any differently than what it was or currently is. To me, this is just a copout to try and justify playing a min/max way over just playing the game.
While the balance is very likely not correct at this point in time, i don’t want difficult heroics, because then i have to spend time and effort, and stress, filtering out bad players, who will make the run either impossible or take 2-3x longer.
We will be spamming these dungeons quite a bit, we will need ALOT of badges for our characters, especially because they’re not account wide. The less effort we need to put in, the better, i want the challenges to be in the raids, not the heroics, at least not in this phase.
There’s still entire quest chains bugged out and unfinished, let the wrath devs sort that out first then start crying you aren’t getting your precious hard heroics. Also i think H MGT has been cleared about 10% as often as any of the other heroics in tbc except for H Arc. I hate running it with bad players as they fail on 3rd boss all the time.
I remember when TBC came out. People were clearing raid content with most of them not being 70. Gear and levels reduce the difficulty level but if you’re awesome, you can overcome the lack of both.
The gate keepers that are losing power.
there are no gatekeepers except your own mind. free yourself lol.
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TBC Heroics suck. They should not be a standard for comparison.
Hell, nobody even runs them and they’re difficult enough for people to be picky about the exact specs they invite.
Let’s not copy TBC, it sucked. It’s almost over, it didn’t warrant enough interest for a perma-server, and let’s just forget that Wrath Waiting Room even needed to happen.
Will make the first week world tours for badges that much faster, looking forward to it.
Yeah am angry that there’s no skateboarding in wotlk change the game for me please, this is nothing like tony hawk pro skater.
Just leave the game alone if you want a challenge we have mythic raids in retail.
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and yet I see people struggle to get groups all the time. So if it sucks in this megaserver, I cant even imagine how much it’ll suck for mid / low pop realms after the initial push. Dont tell me what I care about or I dont.
I mean they were always easy so I’m not seeing the issue here. We were a guild that did nothing but Kara and ZA going into Wrath and mowed them and Naxx down like we were running Strat or something.
Tuning it up won’t make them any better, it will just make them take 15 minutes instead of 12.
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Well thats one way to fix it. Me personally never been a fan of M+ cause of the raid io or mythic io which i am sure will now enter wrath probably.
Agreed. The heroics in wrath are so easy they insult your intelligence, and is one of the many reasons tbc is a far, far superior expansion to WotLK. Starter content being easy does not mean people want literal target dummies that a bot could clear. TBC heroics were easy too, but required the absolute bare minimum in the form of communication, cc, positioning. If that’s too much for some people, they literally aren’t even trying. TBC heroics were amazing and should be looked up to as a model for how heroics should be.
TBC and vanilla was the golden age of WoW and it’s not even close.
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wait, this isn’t “Grom Hellscream: proskater 5”?
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