Beta players are already abusing layering

Right now you get a random layer. There is no reason that if you switch characters for you NOT to spawn in the same layer. And it would prevent people from logging back and forth to force a layer change in order to abuse it to get more resource nodes/mobs packs.

What are the “valid” reasons for switching layers?

Party with your friends? No problem when invited to a party you will phase to their layer. BUT… they should put a 5 minute timer preventing you from doing it again. Why would you need to switch layers again in less than 5 minutes?

Especially is they try and make layers have guild priority… meaning if several people in your guild is in layer 3… then when you log in, it checks your guild and then spawns you in that layer.

The big problem I see is that since they only intend on using layering for a month or so… they are likely to not deem any significant programming worthwhile… leaving it open to abuse during the first month.

Going to complain about farming more with layering or complain about nodes disappearing like in cataclysm. Nightmares still from chasing down nodes in Uldum.

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Hoq dare they find flaws in the game and draw peoples’ attention to it! Blasphemy!

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Right now I’m also considering just staying on pseever instead. Really despise layering and crbg concept.

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Have fun breaking the law.

No law been broken. You should stop giving advice on things you don’t understand.

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Oh really? Let me break it down for you.

PRIVATE SERVERS ARE ILLEGAL. THEY ARE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS ABOUT IT.

If you’re playing on a private server, you’re breaking the law. Which is yet another reason why I stopped cos I don’t wanna be that guy.

Do you?

Nope it’s not. You are free to make a server yourself for any game just like you can make your own third party tires for a car.

Don’t quit your day job to give legal advice.

Most of them will copy what streamers go on though… Launch will be worse than the stress test…

If that was the case Nostalrius would not have been C&D’d by Blizzard.

That was a different case. It had nothing to do with server code. See you don’t even know that.

Telling you, don’t quit your day job to give advice.

If this is already a problem in the beta, there is great concern for how it will impact the game when it goes live. This needs to be addressed.

It had everything to do with them running a live server for an active and protected IP. Ergo, copyright infringement.

If that’s all it takes you weren’t gonna stay anyways…

I’m not certain as I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think the illegality stems from running the private server. I think it stems from them receiving anything monetarily from running it. Could be wrong though.

Either way if they keep layering I think Private servers aren’t going anywhere in my opinion.

Why on earth would logging into a different character reset the layer? Why on earth would the character not be tied to a specific layer, no matter how many times you log in or out or log into alts? Wouldn’t that mean that every time you log into a bank alt you could potentially log back in to an entirely new group of players, thus defeating the entire premise of layering?

I’m suspect that its actually this bad, but if it is then their execution of layering is far off.

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It’s good that this is showing up in Beta. To have that at launch…would be real bad.

When they described layering I thought when you were assigned to a layer…that’s your layer. Logging out wouldn’t affect it. Nothing would affect it except getting invited to another layer (which I think is a bad idea as well). But when you ungrouped you’d go back to your default assigned layer. I doubt that’s the case either. The system clearly needs some work.

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Suspect all you want, there is literally video footage of him doing it, someone already linked it in this thread. This is layering working as CURRENTLY intended, after all it’s a Beta not an Alpha, that is to say they could hopefully change it as exploits like this become more common but going off evidence from the past 3 expansion betas probably not.

The idea that it could work almost doesn’t sound real because it is not even close to what they described layering as—to the point that I at least hope it a different bug altogether, and not consistency reproducible.

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I think you should think about this suggestion a bit more.

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