I actually like this iteration of Lightwell. Sounds powerful if the numbers are good.
How can u tell FC would have been more impactful? You don’t know the numbers and how talents interact in this new expansion. Literally they could buff PoH healing by a lot and you might not even need to cast Flash heal or Heal again… (Like PoH right now in shadowlands)
I like they added some sort of Chakras in that new talent “Divine Words”
The problem I’m seeing with the priest tree is that it’s almost impossible to make a build that balances all the important heal abilities on-top of the good damage ones to make a solid M+ build. Also, I have no clue if Dominant Minds will actually be any good for M+ because it’s only a 30s pet control that’ll just break in the middle of the trash and go running after you.
If you want Empyreal Blaze than you can’t take Divine Hymn without losing out on Holy Oration + Resonant Words. Also, have no clue how good Divine Words will be…
My final concern is that button bloat is going to be pretty intense. We have to add Mind Blast, Empyreal Blaze, Shadowfiend/Mind Bender, and probably Divine Words to our bars.
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No unwavering will = big nerf.
I feel like builds are really going to be dungeon/raid specific. You won’t need Shackle Undead in a non-undead dungeon for example.
It is super weird that you are expecting me to ‘try out’ something when things aren’t in Alpha. I’m not happy about it coming back. I have gone through 6 iterations of Lightwell and it has never been impactful. I think I’m allowed to not be excited for a talent in the Holy Priest tree that has been dictated as a ‘meme’ option every single time.
I liked the way Flash Concentration worked. That’s how I know.
I’ll never take Lightwell. I’ve hated that ability since it came out in 2006. It’s also completely worthless as it only heals targets below 50% hp.
It’s likely to be a meme talent once again. I legit do not understand who in their right mind would think this was an ok talent option for Holy Priests (especially as a last talent tier option). I don’t think they know what they want the spec to be.
Remember when the HoT canceled after taking damage? That was fun.
You said FC would’ve been more impactful implying it would be better for gameplay but you can’t really tell that because as you said nobody tested alpha yet.
Flash heal/Heal might get ridiculous low healing numbers and you wouldn’t even think of spending a point in an FC talent.
That’s all I’m saying. But if you liked the gameplay of it that’s just another thing.
I’ve noticed tho there’s a talent that is a nerfed version of FC tho that reduces the cast time of Heal and flash heal if you are above 75% hp
I really don’t like how much of the class tree is “when shielded” or power word shield based. Holy doesn’t cast that spell, it’s bad for them!
It’s weird but I’m guessing they might low shield mana costs and maybe increase the amount it shields by a lot more.
Mainly because I have history of knowing how Lightwell operates over its many iterations of being janky. FC is a raw healing mechanic that doesn’t require the ally to be below 50% HP.
Shadowlands FC is a raw healing mechanic, Dragonflight is whole new expansion with most likely tons of balance changes
Yes and I would much rather Blizzard have their developers work on something that doesn’t have precedence of being a meme talent as a deep Holy Priest option.
The talent doesn’t even tell you how much it heals… even if it only heals below 50%hp depending on the numbers could be strong af…
The question is what exactly are they going to do with Prayer of Healing, Heal, and Flash Heal.
The closest thing we get to FC is Unwavering Will like you said which is a -20% cast time reduction on those abilities which is pretty much a mandatory pick for Priests for M+ and raiding.
Heal will get deleted off the hotbar like in BFA if it doesn’t have a justifiable reason to be pressed and 2s baseline cast is still too slow.
Prayer of Healing will stay deleted off the bar if its HPS isn’t buffed enough to match Heal/FH spam.
So does Blizzard want us to spam PoH or Heal/FH in raids? Like we aren’t really given the option to play multiple playstyles. It’s either one way or the other.
Or it can be like it has in previous iterations with not being worthwhile with the damage outtake being much higher.
Prayer of Healing applying a small renew might get my attention.
It might be like that, we’ll have to test that
History shows…well…it’ll be bad.
yea… so like why does PI exist still? that needs to go.
These trees in general seem very lackluster and offer nothing interesting other than the weird shadow disc side of the tree that seems very weak and the 1 min cd they gave holy. Im very disappointed and hope this is not even close to their final iteration, its just boring.
Old god idols look cool. Shadow tree in general looks fun. The “while shielded” and “holy nova” talents…meh. REALLY glad to see Shadowflame Prism on the class tree. RIP Boon
I’m fine with PI staying around as long as Twin Suns is an actual choice. Shadow Priests can literally PI themselves and another DPS in the group which is a big utility boost.