Best kept druid secret bug

More Druid Secrets please.

The thing is that the energy boost gets better as the rest of your gear gets better. What looks silly at level 40 is much better once you are in epics.

If you increase your total Shreds in a fight by just 2%, you’re already way ahead of any other helm in the game.

Not if you’re gimping the other 98% of your shreds.

The helm is amazing in PvP, it has a place I guess in PvE, but no one said you can’t powershift without it. There are better helms in better druids hands.

It’s actually BIS for raiding through all of vanilla. Infact, if the helm carried the same effect it could possibly be BiS through some of TBC. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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5 minute fight = 300 seconds

10 energy regen/sec = 3000 energy during the fight

10 shifts over 5 minute fight (VERY LOW) = 200 additional energy

10 shifts = 7% increase in overall energy

That’s like having a helm with 5-6% hit rating.

I don’t think you understand how to Druid based on this silly comment =P

power shifting is part of a feral druids rotation when in cat form and doing dps in raids. Working through our rotations we drain our energy quickly, and at certain times we shift out of cat form and shift right back into it.

Timed correctly we have 80 power to use immediately instead of waiting out for the energy ticks to replenish our ability to sustain dps.

A little research and understanding of how a class is played goes a long way :wink:

Timed correctly you still have 60 power to use immediately.

You lose out on 1% hit, 21 Stg, and 24 Agi for 20 Energy.

Plus using a slight delay, wouldn’t lose any number of powershifts in a long fight, assuming no Druid will ever be able to powershift for an entire end game boss fight.

Add in pots/runs and innervate, JoW and you get a boat load of shifts. Over a 5 minute fight you can get around 60 shifts, or 1200 energy. Much more than 1 thistle tea.

This is a really silly argument.

The only way to know if it’s good is to run the simulations and see. You can’t just eyeball it and know anything.

I advise you to pick up a Wolfshead Helm during Classic and test it for yourself – like lots of ferals did in Vanilla.

You really don’t know what your talking about. We lose nothing in power shifting and gain so much more for our continued dps rotations. Of course my personal raiding experience as a feral back in the old days along with a handful of others doing the same thing must be wrong based on min/max elitist attitudes. :roll_eyes:

I don’t need to prove our feral system works, it’s already been done. Sorry if you can’t handle the truth.

I was trying to be conservative to make a point. I don’t know how many shifts it would be, but I’m guessing that 4-5/minute is sustainable.

Well it’s a good thing Classic is not Vanilla. It will be fun to see how the numbers pan out.

Once again, I agree it seems counter-intuitive so I don’t blame you for being skeptical if you’ve never heard of this before!

Oh I’ve heard it before. But if anyone can produce one guide that has powershifting WITHOUT the helm, it wouldn’t seem as bias.

It’s unfair to compare a helm that you’re doing 10x more work for against helms your assuming are doing a normal rotation too.

No Vanilla guide has powershifting without the helm althought someone is still very capable of doing it w/o it.

I can understand your view point on this, and you are right, it is very doable to do without that specific helm, however you do get a noticeable hit in total dps output by not using it.

Granted you can still do some good dps numbers overall, just not full potential, as I have yet to find any other helm with stats that would make up for the loss of the added power. Something I will be taking another hard look at.

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OK, but you are willing to admit that powershifting without the helm will improve your dps, then why not a helm that increases the energy gains from powershifting by a full 50%?

Would you happen to know of any of the helms you speak of by chance? I could at least do some additional research on them and mark them for testing once in classic.

That’s because it’s so good there’s no reason to do without it.

Only 25% if done correctly too.

And just the Southwind Helm would suffice. It’s impossible to find a powershifting parse/guide without it. So it’s no wonder it looks like its 10x better buts that’s because the guides have people doing 10x more work with it as well.

Increasing overall DPS seems like a fairly okay reason for me.

Disclaimer: It may be the BiS. I’m just stating that the data is incomplete. People didn’t play around with powershifting to the extent that will occur in Classic versus Vanilla. It would be very interesting to see a druid doing all the same things they would for powershifting, minus the helm.

That’s why it’s not fair to say it’s 10x better.