Overall Benthic gear has been a great addition to WoW, but there is one caveat. Some of the pieces have bonuses that work in the eternal palace that are so powerful that mythic drops are actually a downgrade.
This creates a situation where current mythic raiders are spamming alts for manapearls to roll on Boots/Bracers/Belt/Gloves until they get a socket. Now there is nothing intrinsically wrong with this, the problem is once they get that piece there is nothing else in the game that is an upgrade for the eternal palace, even items that can WF/TF from mythic.
A large part of this game centers around character progression (essences, reputation, gear, etc.) but when a system like Benthic is the only progression that ends up making gear from mythic feel like downgrades, there is something wrong.
Now I think that people should still have sockets and strong Benthic gear (425). But the equip bonus should either be significantly nerfed or have the eternal palace removed from the available areas that it functions in.
When I clear heroic/mythic this tier, I want loot to actually feel like a reward and a part of character progression. Other than this small issue, 8.2 has been great overall, so much content and interesting things to grind/farm that feels rewarding.
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So the problem is mythic raiders can essentially attempt to farm BIS pieces without a lockout?
Sorry I donât see an issue here.
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why must there only be one avenue of decent gear in this game?
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Play the game with your feet perhaps? It will be hardâŚbut you will feel rewarded.
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In vanilla some blues were bis for raid tiers. Whats wrong with a couple from world quests stuff.
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because gear from trivial PvE content should never be better than gear from the hardest PvE content in the game.
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What does that even mean? PvP, M+, Raiding and now benthic are all ways to gear. But having the hardest content being overshadowed by farmable daily content makes little sense in a game where character progression is such a pivotal part of it.
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Can Mythic raiders please stop trying to ruin the game for everyone else? And if you canât, then can I get an invite to a M raid guild? Iâm willing to try and learn my best.
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Well this is not vanilla and from playing vanilla from day one all the way through to Naxx, having blues being better than raid level gear was a fundamental problem. Having literally the same item for over a year was not an enjoyable aspect. Pre-itemization changes vanilla upgrades felt terrible, in an era that already lacked frequent loot (couple pieces per boss for a 40 man raid), having an item drop and it not be an upgrade for anyone was a terrible experience.
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If you want to play gear roulette fine by me. But I sorta like keeping a piece for a while. The best enjoyment I get is at the end of expansions when you know there is no more grinding for a while. You donât really have that right now since 8.3 is still to be announced. Note that this is for the patch. And these pieces are situational and have static stats vs the raid gear loot which is probably better in many more aspects of the game.
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How are they trying to ruin the game?
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People really think you should be able to get gear better than Mythic raiding before the raid is even out, yikesâŚ
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You make it sound like people are being forced to get benthic gear. If these mythic raiders are doing what you say then so what. Are they not going to do the raid just because they supposedly already have better gear then I guess they never really wanted to do the raid anyway.
I have pretty much stopped raiding because of the gear chase I still raid once in a while but not near as much as I use to on Alliance and even then I could have cared less if people got better gear out in the world or from crafting as long as they were raiding for fun and for the challenge and if that gear they got from somewhere else helped by a small percentage who cares.
Get over it and play the game to have fun and enjoy it and if you donât want to farm gear or craft it then donât.
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Yeah no, the Mythic ilvl which benthic gear cannot even get close to has stats that outweigh anything benthic has to offer.
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oh no people are actually getting gear that makes mythics easier Blizzard nerf them before too many casuals manage to get invited to the hardcore raiders club
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âHardestâ just means putting in the time necessary to be good enough/able to do it. If someone wants to put 100000 hours into farming the new currency, allowing them to get a BIS piece of gear that way is not that different.
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Wow. Theres some dense people in this thread.
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No one is saying donât make the benthic gear decent.
425 benthic gear is about on par with 480 raid gear. Which doesnât exist.
455 mythic raid gear with a socket, is worse than 425 benthic gear.
Yes. Its completely different.
One actually requires you do accomplish something with a certain amount of skill.
The other requires no skill and just more free time.
Why is the game ruined because someone says a 425 piece of gear shouldnât be easily better than a mythic raid level piece with a socket?
And plenty of mythic quality guilds will take a person if they can show up on time and be willing to learn. Just donât expect to be a top end guild.
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âEveryone elseâ seems to be doing a perfectly bang-up job of accomplishing that without any help from us.
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You are factually wrong, benthic has equip effects that are down right amazing. If you donât believe go pick up some pieces and test for your self in nazjatar.