Remember at the start of the Kyrian Campaign we take this guy Ben Howell to the Shadowlands only for him to get yeeted into the Maw?
It feels terrible that after learning the truth, no one is like “hey, maybe we should save him!”
Please give us a quest line, even a short one, to save poor Ben Howell.
Sometimes, the sad stories are a good thing. Like Runas.
I believe he was data-mined as a mission table follower that you probably get from Torghast or something, but I’ve never heard of anyone actually unlocking him
He died because you didn’t kill enough scourge during the event
That’s a sin itself that you caused
I really, really want to save Runas.
Who?
/10char
weird, during the prepatch I got tons of whispers of people mad that I was ruining their fun by killing them when they turn into ghouls. oh well guess I didn’t get enough hatemail then.
Ben sold gnomes to warlocks for sacrifices to pay for his daughters failed lemonade business.
He got what he deserved (those gnome prices were outrageous)
stop opening up wounds!
i still miss him!
Ben is a demonstration of how brutal Zovaal’s actions were.
The Burning Legion that he instigated had destroyed countless Souls and many more were sent to the Maw to be destroyed including the people killed by the Scourge after Zovaal unleashed them upon Azeroth.
The Scourge and Undead of Duskwood are not a threat to the Capitals, Goldshire and Menethil Harbor due to the defenses protecting them but they are powerful enough to bring down most of the small Towns and Cities in the Kingdom of Stormwind.
The Undead of Duskwood according to the Terror by Torchlight Short Story will rampage like Scourge once the Torch keeping them subdued is removed and clearly it is removed as Undead are rampaging across Stormwind Kingdom. Furthermore the Frostwyrms are flying all over the planet breathing Ice which naturally is probably what put out the Torch of Holy Flame.
The Cult of the Damned of course leads a personal assault on Durotar using their Undead at the orders of Zovaal’s Armies which is very problematic for Durotar. After Zovaal’s Herald’s demise the Cult being decapitated are probably just throwing Undead at Orgrimmar which is probably whatever they can dig up out of Durotar and the Barrens’ graveyards…
The Undead at Razorfen Downs have to go around a lot of things to even reach Orgrimmar and Mount Hyjal which include the massive Great Divide in the Barrens and since they are running rampant I doubt they will go out of their way to avoid it so Orgrimmar and Mount Hyjal are safe from the Cultists getting reinforcements from Razorfen Downs!
The Cult of the Damned throwing Undead at Orgrimmar, the Undead of Razorfen Downs attacking Mulgore, Scourge ravaging Lordaeron, Undead from Duskwood’s Raven Hill wiping out the Towns & Villages of Stormwind except the Capital, Menethil Harbor and Goldshire and the Frostwyrms freezing everything in their path…
Zovaal’s schemes have not been kind to Azeroth or the Multiverse at large…
I expected to find Runas down there and maybe help him out, but I guess they forgot about him.
That quest showed that the writers really don’t communicate with each other. If the Kyrian are supposed to witness the last moments of a persons life, why did it not happen with Uther? They would have seen it all right then, instead of Devos having to somehow delve into Uther’s broken memory at a later time. And it would have been a lot more clear what happened to Uther, instead of the “I saw a hazy fragment of a memory but there were runes like Zovaal has! I’m going to jump to conclusions!” schtick we got.
It’s even more weird than that.
Kleia was the one who met with us as we landed in Bastion. She knows of the anima drought and the entire point of the main leveling campaign involved the fact souls were going straight to the maw.
Yet here we are on the Kyrian campaign which you absolutely 100% have to do the main campaign first and she is surprised by the souls going to the maw and the fact Ben went there too.
As for Ben himself…I’m kind of glad Blizzard didn’t “save” him. His loss is meant to tug at the heartstrings and not everything gets a happy ending. Same for Runas (not that I personally even liked him…he was a druggie and I’ve little compassion for people who get themselves addicted and then suffer consequences of that addiction). If every NPC gets an out and a happy ending, then the stuff that they go through in lessened because we know it doesn’t really matter because in the end it’ll work out.
If anything, WoW should have more quests that have choices with consequences and such. One of my favorite zones to play through is Vashj from Cata simply because it dared to tell a different story than nearly all other zones. You fight and struggle and win battles and have some successes as you play through the zone, but you’re still forced to retreat and relocate and even in the end, you lose. Neptulon is captured and taken away along with the guy who saved us and was with us through the zone and even in the dungeon itself, we rescued them but still only managed to scare off the main boss.
By contrast, zones like My Hyjal I dislike because it’s your typical “world on the brink of destruction” where we come in and just do a massive 180 on the entire thing…nothing but winning and success to the point the villains just seemed incompetent and comical in their ineptitude.
I appreciate a story more where the heroes don’t always win and when victory comes at high prices…or even when the price was so high and the end result so lackluster by comparison it isn’t even worth it.
Having another Necro
— Since upon doing the Kyrian campaign, I’ve still yet to see any conclusion to Ben Howell and we’re at the end of Shadowlands.
Even if there’s likea big 'The Maw was shook to its foundations and the souls poured up and spiraled in mass through the arbiter — Flooding the various realms of the Shadowlands with their rightful souls; then later on having the Kyrian Kleia give a cheerful quest towards introducing a soul to their new journey as an aspirant and giving you the honour with her, as she suggests you’ll want to see it – Revealing none other than Ben Howell! 
Also having some quests in Redridge for the fallout of that for continuity wouldn’t be bad either … Just sayin’ 
They couldn’t just drop him off in Oribos temporarily and wait I guess. 
Yep. He needs his final redemption arc after being unceremoniously chucked into the maw.
Runas. 
I tried to forget… RIP Benny H.
This thread might be a bit of a necro, but it’s not wrong. Who at Blizzard forgot to flip the switch to make him appear in Torghast as a follower you could rescue?
A lot of good stories got started and never concluded in SL. It’s one of my biggest complaints about the expansion.