Bel'ameth gossip text and named NPCs gallery (PTR spoilers)

Not really. I get we all get to play but canonically it was probably Alliance players in charge of questing with and for Tyrande while Horde players were busy destroying who knows what.

At the very least there’s this aura placed on Horde players saying Sentinels are watching them.

Still their very access to that zone should be met with KoS but it is what it is. BS of story.

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No, I’m pretty sure that is not the case at all. I think that is just you being very angry and using your anger to concieve scenarios specifically designed to further your own anger. It’s a vicious cycle, and I hope one day you find a way to escape it.

Choose renewal. You will be happier and healthier that way!!

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Not much to choose when it’s being pushed by force down my throat but it’s just Blizzard being Blizzard :man_shrugging:t2:

So, just blatantly ignoring everything previously stated.

Gotcha.

Like was said before, from a logical perspective it makes complete sense that the Kaldorei have opted to make amends and try to rebuild instead of waging eternal war.

That also given the context that Horde players and characters (see the pre-raid cinematic and campaign) are there defending and helping the Nelves build a new home… Yeah, it makes perfect sense why members of the Horde could walk around in these areas.

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No, you can always chooce. Blizzard does not control your life. Let go of your anger and find something that makes you happy!!

Unless Blizxzard actually does control your life…

If so, that must really suck. :frowning_face:

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That’s why I usually take really long breaks from the game and only come back because of my friends so a vacation from this BS is incoming so we call all be happy.

Horde won so I might as well embrace that and leave here. It’s your territory anyways.

I’m glad your faction can enjoy the fruits of a well-deserved genicide.

Actually, no we didn’t. We lost. You lost too, but we did not win. Nobody did.

I’m missing something here. Did the night elves, the ones getting a whole city, join the Horde? I do not think they did, but you seem to think the night elves getting a whole new tree city that Horde characters can visit at least for now is somehow a reward to… The Horde?

You are not making much sense.

Are we sure now that Blizzard isn’t in control over you? I’m starting to think they might be…

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So…

Your idea for moving past a genocide is to… commit more genocide?

Harbor more racial and factional hatred?

Continue more acts of war which will just inevitably keep hurting the victims of genocide further?

Okay.

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Now that’s it’s just a neutral hub with a bunch of neutral night elves, it feels more like a night elf museum. Here are the scraps of night elves shuttled off to an island in the middle of nowhere to be retired in the ocean for everyone to walk around and look at.

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Y’know, on thinking it over, I am changing my stance entirely.

Why the heck are Horde players allowed access to new content anyway?? If they wanted new content, they would not have forced the devs to do BfA. It’s not like they have barely had any presence beyond “Sylvanas evil, Sylvanas good” the last four years.

I mean obviously a city full of night elves, with portals to night elf places, filled with night elf people, will actually be a night elf city within the narrative.

Horde players are just so entitled, thinking they also deserve the new content.

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Just because members of the Horde can walk around in it doesn’t mean that it isn’t aligned with the Alliance.

That being said, even if it does turn out to be an entirely neutral city…
It just means that it isn’t aligned with any major power, and doesn’t really have any more implication behind it than it being a modern day cosmopolitan city for a diverse array of Nelves to live.

It’s less of a ‘museum of the old’ and more a emblem of the new.

That’s what the Nelf story has been about since WC3, since the inception.
Change.

The Nelves needed to change in order to beat off the Legion during the Third War.
WoW’s original release dealt with the fallout of that change, and how most of the Nelves which wanted to go back and retreat that ‘old way’ of thinking were ultimately wrong (the original narrative theme of the Teldrassil questchains and Staghelm as a character).

This theme continued on through Cata with the Druids of the Flame and the reincorporation of the Highborne.

This theme continued on through Legion, wherein the Nelves (largely through the Wardens) had to put their pre-conceived hatreds aside and work the the Demon Hunters and Illidan.
It was the theme of Blackrook Hold as well.

This theme was emphasized in the expansions after BfA.
Tyrande, ultimately learns that her self-obsessed quest for revenge wasn’t a path of healing, it wasn’t a path towards a better future.
That’s what the Seed of Amirdrassil represented, a new future for the Nelves.

This theme carries on into this expansion as well.

The entire Nelf Heritage questline centered around the old way vs. the new way.
The new generation against the old generation, and how there’s still challenges yet to overcome.

Most, if not all of the questlines within the Emerald Dream deal with this as well.
Shandris deals with her past trauma, and moves past it, learning that hate isn’t a pathway towards healing and letting go of the past… Looking towards the future.

Like, idk man, there’s a reason that Blizzard decided on creating Nelves in the first place and centering them as needing to change to survive.
This isn’t new, this is just what Nelves are and always have been.

I’m sorry you just haven’t realized that Night Elves have always been a thin allegory for traditionalism vs. progressivism.
…and how embracing change leads to a better future for everyone.

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What content is even here? It’s just a bunch of neutral night elves standing around a neutral horde and alliance hub. Are there a bunch of quests here for “new content”?

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An entirely new settlement to explore, for one.

Idk, what kind of argument is that.

‘Yeah, lets just wall-off all this new cool stuff to explore for one faction only. Seems like a good idea.’

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You don’t really do anything there, it’s just kind of a neutral night elf museum without anything to do other than I guess look at a bunch of the copy pasted structures.

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A lot of the structures are new.

Whether you think it’s ultimately enough content or not is up to you.

But there’s no reason to fence it off for half the playerbase for arbitrary reasons…
Especially when like… those reasons aren’t even backed by lore, really.

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I mean, we’re talking about early ptr, not a ready-for-live release. NPCs don’t even have their full dialog options coded in yet. Pretending that what we see right now is all there will be is very disingenuous.

But we have confirmation that there will be cosmetic rewards across the zone, and if we’re not lying to ourselves for the sake of arguing, cosmetic rewards are pretty much one of the main pinnacles of modern WoW’s reward system.

We don’t know what all will be available when we approach closer to a live release, but what we’re seeing is certainly not the full extent. We keep getting new images of new things added, so it’s hardly likely we’re at the end already.

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The docks are from BfA, but there are like 3 structure types that are just reused all over the neutral hub, the tower, the house and the kind of inn, a lot of it is copy/pasted and thrown all over in that respect which are just updates of old versions of those structures, they aren’t really “new” just updated.

Like the tabard you buy for resources? Maybe they are planning on adding a bunch of quests, but there is nothing to do there now, other than walk around a neutral hub and look neutral night elves in the museum.

You seem to be malfunctioning and repeating the same thing over and over.

Perhaps you need it repeated one more time:

  • Not everything has been added yet.
  • No matter the amount of content, it’s still content.
  • Barring an entire playerbase from new content is bad and serves nothing.
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No, like the cosmetics we were told will be found throughout the zone? Not just a tabard?

IDK what to tell you anymore, it seems you just wish to be negative for the sake of it.

I give up. You win Mara. This is horrible and clearly development on 10.2.5 has stopped.

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Yeah, for you walking around a hub that has nothing to do can be content sure. But pretending like there hasn’t been horde or alliance content throughout the history of wow is pretty disingenuous, and that is when the game was actually doing well. I know the idea now is to make everything neutral and get rid of the factions, so we will probably just see all the cities going neutral eventually as they merge the factions.

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