How dare you.
What question did you actually have? I donāt see one in your first post or title. Perl did provide you an answer as to what resources you have to Block, avoid, and report other players who break the game rules. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/being-bullied-by-large-group/1535983/30
Note, existing in game is not against the rules. You not wanting to see someone who is there, even if they go to locations where you are, is not against the rules. What would be against the rules, is circumventing Ignore after you put their account on Ignore. Ignoring from your character will ignore their whole account, including alts, for that character.
If you have any actual questions about how to use the in-game tools to report and Ignore, or how the Ongoing Harassment process works, feel free to move your post to Customer Support.
To do that, edit your first post title and under the drop down where it says General Discussion, change it to Customer Support.
A lot of self righteous hot fetid air , delivered in a manner in which he pretends not to be creating circular arguments while doing just that.
You seem to have shut them up with this post.
If it is as bad as the OP stated, that it caused that type of break in their mental stateā¦ Iād be doing a 100% clean of my bnet, and then start over on other serversā¦ $20.00 for a token gets you enough gold to get your characters in order.
ROFL oh to be a fly on the wall when a blue reads this
Welcome to the CS forum everyone!
If the OP has any questions about the game tools to Ignore, report, or avoid individuals. This is the place to be.
I hope the OP actually asks whatever question they have though. I donāt see one yet. It helps to be clear in what information is wanted. Perl already provided a great resource link.
I played a lot of FF14/OSRS and never found either of them very toxic. Comparatively wow is 5x as toxic for me as a new player its not even close
Looks like we have an import from General. Going to lock this temporarily so I can catch up and moderate, as necessary.
Sorry, got sidetracked by a meeting.
Alright. I deleted a few posts here and there that felt a bit antagonistic. There was one discussion about āwords on a screenā that I would have liked to delete fully, but I believe the responses challenging that had merit, so I kept what I could.
I canāt advise you on any addon usage, that would be best from your fellow players, but I can help walk you through what you can do for harassment in-game.
There isnāt much that can be done to remove other characters from your visual range. If a characterās physical presence has such a negative impact on you, the only real option I can see is either rerolling on a new realm, or using the Character Transfer service to move your characters to a new realm. That generally isnāt feasible in for everyone, but it is an option.
As for other aspects of this. Overall, the advice originally provided by Tovi and several others is sound.
For ongoing harassment issues, you want to place the those doing it on ignore and do not engage with them. If they are able to circumvent the ignore, by using another account or another player contacts you, place that new character on ignore and report it as ongoing harassment.
Ongoing harassment with a guild can be a bit more complicated than that from an individual, but the key is consistency in reporting. We need to establish a pattern of behavior, and the only way to do that is to report it.
Looking at your ticket history, Utena, I can see a couple of tickets that you entered over the years, but you seem to have abandoned them before any investigation could be done.
MMORPGs tends to be social, where you are likely to interact with others throughout your playtime. You arenāt expected to get along with everyone, and we have provided some tools to help prevent contact for those situations in which things tend to escalate. If things escalate beyond that, we need to be notified so that we can look into it. We cannot help if weāre not in the loop.
Iām going to unlock this one for now, but may close the threads if it starts to turn again. Thanks, all.
I will be 110% transparent - yes, I am purposely on a Classic alt because while I felt I had perspective and advice to add about what I saw happen (and as I stated, know none of the background information about it), I donāt want to become part of the drama. Moon Guard is a big server but we have a community thatās very much like a small town and I donāt have the spoons to be an ongoing resource for guidance or reference in this situation.
Roleplay servers only have one layer in legacy content - so Stormwind, Orgrimmar, and anywhere else in the world except the Dragon Isles. Youād have to group with someone on another server and be pulled to another server entirely.
You could probably layer-hop in the Dragon Isles if you had someone pull you to another crossrealm layer, or also to another server, but youād need to have an anchor who grouped with you to do it, thereās no way to manually select a layer.
To be absolutely fair. This could be any number of folks, as the bounce between one realm or another and then back again when the heat becomes too much is kind of a routine for some who have perfected(?) the practice over the years.
That saidā¦
This. Itās another thing Iāve seen happen more than a few times in the past. Iām all for someone stepping up to own their mistakes, but it is quite unnecessary to make a massive production about it instead of keeping it to the people affected and go about it privately. Anything more than that feeds the trolls, and heavens know theyāve got more than their fair share to gnosh on.
OP - youāve been given some great advice by Tovi and others throughout thisā¦wild ride of a thread. I hope that you do keep on it if your mental state will allow you to safely. That, no matter anything else, is the most paramount thing to focus on. Only when you can manage that from a place of power, as it were, do you need to worry about any of this mess.
Follow through with the advice given. Report harassment, no matter what kind of history youāre coming from. Keep those tickets open - the staff exist to help you with these sorts of things. It may take time, but let the system work.
Above all, I wish you nothing but the best. Stay safe and reach out to the resources and community that exist at your fingertips should you need it.
The character theyāre posting with is on MG, I took note of the name when I saw the yelling because Iām a huge fan of the show. It doesnāt get mentioned a lot!
To add to this, you said:
You can add this to your ticket. You donāt need to give the whole story, but it can add some context about why you feel they are harassing you just by being in the same area as you.
Itās actually a tactic Iāve heard about more and more. Just standing there, which is allowed, and letting a nameplate do the harassing.
To your other questions:
If you party with someone on a different layer or even realm, you will get pulled there. There is not a way to initiate this yourself (that Iām currently aware of), but it can be done through grouping with someone else.
Iām not sure what is meant here. Are you saying the player(s) doing this are zone disruptors? If so, thatās not very accurate. Zone Disruption is certainly not allowed, but thatās a pretty specific meaning, and standing near someone, even with the intent to harass someone, isnāt the same thing.
So in your opinion, guilty until proven innocent?
And Iāve never had a single toxic interaction in WoW since I started last year, not even in M+ keys. But Iām not so foolish as to think there isnāt any toxicity ever, nor claim as such.
Meanwhile, played XIV for 10 years and saw some absolutely vile, terrifying stuff. Cults of personality centering around a āmentoringā guild, doxxing over disliking x or y popular character (or liking x or y ābadā villain), callout posts and harassment and death threats between RPers for interpersonal drama, endless amounts of child groomers or abusers, etc.
It also has some good people. But the fact it does, does not negate the fact it also has a lot of the above. More so than most other MMOs Iāve played in the past, honestly.
So yeah, if this is what the OP is dealing with in WoW, Iād never recommend her go to XIV. I donāt wish that cesspool on anyone.
Not sure what OSRS has to do with the original quote, butā¦ okay? Iāve heard a few things from OSRS too, though most of it involving scammers and PKers more than anything. I play it off and on.
The above statement about there not being any toxicity just because you, personally, never experienced any still stands.
At any rate, the OPās gotten a lot of good advice in this thread. All I can recommend her to do at this point is attempt to follow it - including perhaps seeking psychiatric help if her mental health issues extend to things outside of this particular instance. Always take care of yourself first and foremost, folks.
Clearly you havenāt qued solo shuffle, people let slurs fly because someone makes a single mistake, Iāve had harassment DMs more times than I can count by now and I reported and blocked them but there are always more.
This is from just a couple months of the game mode, not to mention I got mass reported (got an actual warning from blizz) by botters because I killed them in pvp and cleared their farm out.
Iāve experienced more mean people on wow Iām 3 months of my fresh account and playtime than I did in years of RuneScape and FF14 combined.
Your problem there is expecting civility in PvP, lmao. Youāre right, I donāt queue for solo shuffle, because I dislike PvP, and I also tend to dislike PvPers.
Still doesnāt mean WoW is uber toxic on the level of League of Legends. Some content will have more toxicity than others, but on the whole, the gameās relatively tame in comparison to whatever garbage people like to shout on these forums, or outside of the playerbase.
You do content that is going to specifically attract toxic types. That is ultimately kind of on you, at that point. Should PvP be so toxic? Absolutely not. But it usually is, so people who tend to want to avoid that toxicity tend to avoid PvP or let it slide off of them and report for harassment as needed.
Doing content that is known for having a higher concentration of toxic types, vs. a good majority of just regular players being incredibly toxic and borderline psychotic, isnāt really the same thing.
Good for you that you never encountered toxicity in OSRS and FFXIV (why are we even talking about OSRS to begin with? That wasnāt even in your original quote, so Iā¦ truly donāt know why drag that poor olā thing into this). That doesnāt mean any of the stuff I spoke of doesnāt happen, all because you personally never encountered it.
Please continue to push your XIV-is-so-friendly narrative elsewhere. It isnāt helpful to the conversation of OPās harassment in-game, especially not when you try to dress it up as somehow being less toxic than what sheās been experiencing.
ā¦ What?
No, it isnāt your fault people are toxic to you, and I never stated as such. I even said that PvP should not be as toxic as it is. But you are actively choosing to engage in a type of content that is known for being incredibly rampant with such behavior - you do not deserve to receive it, but the likelihood of it is much greater than if you avoided that type of content. All you can really do if you wish to continue playing the content, is continue reporting the harassment as it happens. If it gets to a point you canāt deal with it anymore, thenā¦ the best option is usually to not engage in that kind of content.
That isnāt bad faith. Thatās being factual about the situation.
Also who in the world am I supposed to be an alt of lmao??? This is the only character I post on. You talk bad faith, then come at me with that just because I disagree with your narrative. Okay bud, whatever you say. Talk about massive derailing.