Since you refuse (or are just unable) to do anything about the pre made problem. ALL epic BGS should now have a forfeit vote… Like a “vote to kick” during a raid. If 75% or more of the players getting farmed for an hour in epics vote to leave, then the epic is over and no one gets a deserter penally and the team that didn’t forfeit gets the conquest points for the win. Problem solved and this would cut down drastically on pre made groups as well. Well… the nightmare of being in them getting farmed for an hour anyway…
And do you know what else!!! This would cut WAY DOWN on poor people waiting in que for 30 min just to get into a pre made nightmare someone just left that was already in progress. < This is actually more important right here…
Or you can just make bgs cross faction which would help shorten queues, and make it substantially harder to get entire premades into the game (population + faction splitting, gg)
The options shouldn’t be down to “leave and wait 10 minutes to requeue into what you want to play” or “get farmed.” None of this should happen, because Blizzard should actually do something about premades. I don’t agree with OP’s solution but accepting things as they are is lame.
I have no problem with premades in random bgs, its only random bg. Everyone that join is there to either overpower and nuke lowbies or chill and cap honnor for blues.
This would likely be the best solution. Then it becomes more about making strong 5-man groups to give yourself a lesser advantage. Keeping track of which side you are on would be a bit of a headache.
the biggest issue i see with cross faction games is still the fact that probably 1/3 of the playerbase is tribalistic and refuses to play for or with the other color. if they mix factions to stop premades, then the next complaint will be blizzard needs to force players to play to win. nobody wants that guy on their team who won’t help because he is facing his faction.
They could simply take the time between queues and break them apart. Not hard to figure out when there are 40 people roughly queueing within a very very very small window of each other. Seems to me it should stick out like a sore thumb.
Idk these people are so stubborn it’s just not worth it, no matter what you do, they’d get upset.
Everything in the game is cross faction except trade chat and bgs
Let them complain, I just wanna play bgs with my horde friends while also having faster queues
Blizzard is clearly breaking down all the barriers between factions so players aren’t separated from their friends.
It’s only a matter of time before random bgs become cross-faction too.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason that hasn’t happened yet is because someone still has to go through all the bg maps and modify them to account for cross-faction teams.
We’ve seen in war games that AV can’t fully handle cross-faction teams yet. Players were rezzing at the wrong team’s graveyards, etc.
Agreed, just give us cross faction bgs. Sync queuing shouldn’t be in the game, xfaction will immediately alleviate this. It’s what everything is aiming towards anyway, shorter queue times and let us play with our other faction friends. Keeping the lore of factions just for non-rated bgs is dumb
Of course it would but the question is how much it would change over time when the information is out? Right now pvp is just slowly dying even for casuals because of blatant issues that have existed for almost the life span of wow. People are getting tired of it and jsut stopping to the point i would say well over the amount that would be lost with what i suggested. Look how small pvp in wow is now and how many have quit because of the issues listed repeatedly for years in wow. We’re seeing now the culmination of these issues and quite frankly it sucks as i do enjoy wow pvp but there is alot wrong with it and should be considered looking at since the game has lost near 3/4 of its pvp playerbase both rated and casual through the years.
