Quite the panic going on, not as much as the corona virus, but close!
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Y’all still have the power to fix your own queues, as you always have. This is a lot of the point of same-server BGs, actually. It would balance these otherwise imbalanced servers. Objectively sounds like a good thing.
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No one is going to completely abandon their faction/friends/guildmates and reroll this late into classic. People have invested time and money into their characters where they are. PVP servers don’t have the option to easily reroll. They would have to abandon their characters and hard work entirely and start over from scratch. Its not practical, and assuming that people can just do something like that at the drop of a hat is narrow-minded and ridiculous.
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Well then I guess you have to take the good with the bad. You want free access to resources in the world due to massive imbalances? Keep waiting in queue, buddy.
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Free access is a very loose term considering you still have to compete with your own faction, without the benefit of being able to kill them when they try to interfere. You sound like someone who’s salty about their own faction being outnumbered and just assume all horde are exploiting you. Not every horde player is out to get you.
The bottom line is this change is out of the blue, without warning. It doesn’t addresses any existing issues, but instead creates new ones for no verifiable reason. People have given reasons why this change isn’t practical. Just because it isn’t affecting you personally, doesn’t mean it won’t have negative effects. People that can’t see beyond the scope of their own perspective, and that just openly support changes without fully grasping their impact, are almost as damaging as the blizzard developers who came up with the changes.
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Disagree, it allows everyone to have a balanced honor competition. Otherwise the weekend would rip one timezone out of two hours. It also provides more of a ‘community feel’ which is objectively in “the spirit of vanilla”.
I think I’ve heard this before somewhere…can’t quite place my finger on which changes though. Can you help me?
Honestly, if Blizzard changes their mind due to massive horde outrage on this, it would be hilarious. This change is objectively good for the game, even if it slightly elongates your queues.
Just going to throw it in here that I am also unhappy about blizzard splitting the warsong community in half.
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Really upsetting news this will split the twink player base in half. Hope they don’t go through with this idea.
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It’s not even the twink community. This will negatively affect ALL low level PvP, twink or not. Everyone laughs that queues are always sub second, but they most certainly are not.
You think your average joe leveler is gonna be happy that the BG’s he occasionally joins while leveling are now double the queue time?
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one of two things will happen regarding casual-levelers:
- they won’t know the difference because they’re casual.
- they won’t care, because they’re leveling and join BGs only to break up the monotony of leveling.
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Yeah…I feel this change is horrible for sub-60 brackets; this is also before mentioning the new AB/WSG split.
I don’t feel the ‘familiar faces’ benefit at 60 will be felt anywhere near as much as the detriment to 10-59. Twink haters may love it, but I think it’s a shame.
I keep hoping I’m missing something here, though…
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This is a terrible solution to a minor timezone problem. The effects on low level brackets will ruin the amazing pvp communities we have created these last few months. Please please please find a different solution that does not split the playerbase.
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As someone already suggested, simply putting the official timing for weekend values based in central solves the issue without impacting thousands of players, via a needless change.
Also, as I’ve already said before the spirit of vanilla that you are clinging to like a pearl necklace has already been brutally butchered. The “community feel” you are looking for is a fantasy that is no longer achievable with the state of things as they’ve ended up.
This has nothing to do with horde/alliance favoritism. Take your faction drama to a different thread.
Claiming that this change is objectively good for the game, yet I don’t see you pointing out any evidence of that either? You think this fabled vanilla community will suddenly be born again from these changes. Your games will still be dominated by premades, and no one will remember who you are at the end of the game. If that’s the only platform you have to stand on, its a rather weak one indeed. Meanwhile there are actually measured issues that are being created such as affected queue times in multiple brackets.
I know you don’t care, but its a very real issue for the people who are being affected.
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Except it could be done without battlegroups. A 1 hour time difference on each end would have been fine and literally unnoticeable by the majority of the player base, also providing fast queue times and keeping the sub-60 pvp alive.
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“bLiZzArD oNlY cAtErS tO tHe HoRdE”
Oh stop pretending to be a bloody victim. This change is horrible for ALL the sub-60 brackets.
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This 100%
April 1st is in 3 weeks blizz…
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lot of malding horde in this thread. Thank You Blizzard for giving the horde Longer Queues 
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Twink brackets are “unfortunate behavior” imho. You’re trying to exploit a leveling bracket so you have an unfair advantage - on either side. Your opinion should immediately be disregarded.
You said you don’t see me making a point, then you followed it up with my point exactly. Will this alone pave the way for a vanilla community feel? No, probably not. Is it a step in the right direction, one that could theoretically bridge-the-gap toward server specific queues? Yes, absolutely.
Edit: Not to mention, it will only help the “Alliance afk problem” because we will more easily be able to identify and stigmatize the people who are consistently AFKing in each game. The same stigmatization that occurred in Vanilla AV as a means to combat this problem. Again, this change is great.
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Why would you release Arathi Basin March 11th then have Warsong Gulch holiday on the 13th?
Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to have the new battleground be the first holiday?
In original vanilla Arathi Basin released on a Tuesday and on the same Friday Arathi Basin was the first holiday weekend.
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Never said I was holding my breath, if you have issues with reading comprehension I said might have a chance, if you want to assume that means that EVERY BG will be with people that I know then you’re just misconstruing my words to fit the terrible stance you strawman for.
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Battlegroups were in vanilla and in fact were THE method for splitting up BGs in the exact version of wow they started from, it’s not only true to vanilla but yes it would give you a chance at seeing the same people more than once, or at least at a substantially higher chance of it happening.
3.NONE of what you said is a convincing reason why they are a bad thing. Try again.
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