Bards make zero sense in WoW

It is literally a fact that the Evoker class is based on dragons and the dragonflights. That’s from Blizzard themselves.

Yes. I said that in the first post. Much like it’s your opinion they’d not make a good class or it’s your opinion their abilities would somehow be part of another class.

How can they be a good class if they don’t offer anything new to the class lineup, and there’s no basis for them as a class in the game?

Gonna also ask where these imaginary rules you’ve come up with come from?

Look at the other 13 classes. Also WoW devs themselves stated that WoW’s classes are based on WC heroes.

They’re based on draconic heroes like Alexstraza and co.

If you can find some bardic heroes to base Bards on, then maybe we can have a conversation.

Bards being tied to storytelling could make Chen a class trainer as a Bard. He may not be the most musical but Pandaren society at large understands the beauty of music. And after all the Retcons WoW has gone through that would be a very easy one to implement without having to rewrite much

Which is to say, inspired by something else.
Which is to say, they didn’t exist until they were made.
Which is to admit, a class such as the Bard could exist inspired by something like, say, the Radiant Song.
Wild.

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Bards have always been an annoying class in every ttrpg I have ever played. Even in 5e as a viable class all they are is a sorcerer with a drum and a couple of skills shoved in to make them look different.

I highly recommend finding a DnD campaign with a Bard committed to the bit. I’ve played with some great bards that were the life of the party without ever casting a damaging spell

The difference being that we could pull abilities, attributes, and concepts from Alexstraza and the other dragons. We even had HotS dragons who we could pull actual class mechanics from.

What abilities, attributes, and concepts can we pull from the radiant song that couldn’t be utilized by existing classes?

Who’re you going to call when you need to seduce a dragon. The warrior? Pfft!

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Or we could simply acknowledge that they’re not a class-worthy concept in WoW and forget that they exist.

I imagine RP servers would actually explode if Bards were introduced to be fair bwahahahaha

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A sorcerer with a guitar can also RP at the table.

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You’ve made it clear you have a don’t like Bards.

But (luckily for the community) you’re not a game developer so what your personal feelings are don’t really matter.

The fact is Bard’s are the epitome of traditional Support class and the game is dying for other support classes because Aug exists. And Chen and the Pandaren are an easy in for Bard’s introduction.

Just as easy as using Alexstraza, Deathwing (the actual creator of Dracthyr btw) and Dragons as explanation for Dracthyr.

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I’ve had more non-bards with instruments than bards with instruments. One of my bards was a storyteller, the other did poetry.

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I want to play a bard in D&D that’s an insult comic.

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Except Alexstraza, Wrathion, Chromie, etc. were actual characters you could base a class character on. They had abilities, attributes, lore, etc.

Good luck basing a character class on the radiant song.

I’m sure Game developers can come up with something my non professional butt could and I put together a cohesive pitch for three Bard specs.

You’ve made it clear your emotions have made this decision for you and you’re unwilling to consider the possibility you’re wrong about anything. Add you the list of Forums Trolls I have going. Good Day Friend

This would be amazing.

Slinging one liners at a mob to do damage :rofl: I bet you could find a homebrew DM that would help you implement that

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This kind of creativity is baked into the class, it’s how they cast their spells. You could dance, tell tales, play an instrument, sing - no homebrew needed.

Also individually, Cutting Words already kinda occupies that specific space on its own.

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I’ve been trying to get a group started where I live for six months now. Nobody has the time or wants to answer the sign in our local gaming store.

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Can’t see the difference?

We could determine most of that BEFORE Evokers even appeared as a class.

The reason you can’t do that with the Radiant Song is because you can’t base a class on it. You need a hero to base a class on, simple as that.

It reminds me of that Tom Cardy song…

Perception Check I think it was hahahaha