As much as I love bard… I really think with all the recent happening s about Mechagon, and a constant spotlight on how the war technology has evolved with the story, Tinker is much more likely to happen.
My favorite class in DAoC was the Warden. He was a 2nd rate melee or healer, but he offered support abilities that most groups fought over. The hard part is balancing the utility support classes bring to a group vs. the loss of dps from not having a damage dealer in that spot. With Blizzard’s track record on balancing classes and slanting towards hominization my thoughts on a support class happening is zero or less.
It did start off as an april fools joke i think in WC2, THEN were implemented in WC3 and were almost added as an alliance race in BC.
I guess from my years in Everquest, when I think of a tinkerer I think of the gnome class and in WoW that would include the gobbies, and should be a profession.
Bards should be able to sing dot songs, sing healing songs, sing fast running songs, sing invisible songs… all around fun class.
But tinkering, to me, is a profession.
I’d prefer a Tinker class with turrets but a Bard would be my 2nd most wanted class. In Silvermoon there are some musicians and back around WotLK I thought we would get a Bard class because of them but we got the DK class instead, lol.
I like the Bard class in Allods. If I made the Bard class then dps would get guitar which could be mogged differently or picked in character creation. Tank would be drums but not sure if it should be two drums that strap to your character that move around with you or have the whole rock drum set. And support would be some other instrument like microphone, tambourine or saxophone. They would be a hybrid cc, buff, debuff and heal class.
Bard NPCs have been slowly added around the game ever since cataclysm and even if they weren’t, the monk essentially came out of nowhere.
But as cool as the fantasy sounds, I do worry that it feels like dev attention is already being divided and stretched across a lot of classes/specs already and I don’t want to get into a MOBA-type situation where players are expected to just abandon old classes for new ones.
Tinker is nearly a lock for 9.0. Loads of stuff in game already to support it, the most important are the NPC “enemy players” in the island adventures, which I think are all based on new classes coming to the game.
you have kul tiran shamans and they wernt in the lore at all so a bard could work and any allied race class combo could.
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I never said the reason they shouldn’t be added is because they don’t exist in the lore. I said they’re a poor fit thematically. It’s a bit too whimsical IMO and any added lore to make it work would feel forced.
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We may not have specifically known about KT Shamans, but we knew they were a largely naval culture, we can assume they know how magic works in general, and Shamans in general are just individuals communing with the Elements to use their powers, there’s no lore reason KT Humans wouldn’t be able to do that.
FWIW I -do- think most current class/race combo restrictions could be lifted and fit perfectly fine within lore. They seem to mostly be restricted based on cultural norms, which is something I don’t agree with given that we’re our own character, a champion of our faction, we’re not random [race] #31924.
I’d love to see Bard as a class!
No, it is not possible
Bard is not a part of Warcraft lore as far as I know.
What races should have bards?
I would say for the Alliance:
Human,
Dwarf,
Night Elf,
Worgen,
Void Elf,
Kul Tirans,
and Pandaren
For Horde
Undead,
Tauren,
Zandalari,
Blood Elf,
Goblin,
Nightborn,
Pandaren,
Lore wise it would make sense, but I’ve added in some races that would make less sense as bard in order to balance out the faction imbalance. (Notable Zandalari, and Goblin)
Specs would be Troubadour (Healer), and Skald (DPS). The main things Bards can do would be giving AoE buffs to those around them. For example a Troubadour can give out healing and absorb buffs while a Skald can give damage boosting and attack speed buffs.
They would use leather armor and can use two handed weapons as a skald, or duel one handed weapons as a Troubadour.
Each race would start with a unique instrument that fits them, but you can find ‘instrument salesmen’ in Stormwind or Orgrimmar that you can buy new instruments in the form of a consumable that will change the animation style of your instrument in-game, similar to a glyph. Instrument types would be purely cosmetic. You can also purchase another races instrument.
Humans would start out with an acoustic guitar
Dwarves would start with bagpipes
Night Elves start with a flute
Worgen a lute
Void Elves a viola
Kul Tirans a violin
and Pandaren a Pipa
For the Horde you’d have
Undead with electric guitar
Tauren with a duct flute (Better known as the native american flute)
Zandalari with a ukulele
Blood Elves with a Mandolin
Goblins with a keytar
Nightborn with a harp
Anyone agree or disagree with my ideas?
While it makes enough sense, I wouldn’t agree with another leather class being added in a more meta sense. Even with personal loot, armor class comp matters for trading and we have an overabundance of leather already.
If we’re just talking hypothetically in a vacuum, yeah sure sounds fine, if we must have a bard class.
like i said kul tiran shamans didnt exist in the lore either but they are there now.
so a bard class can work.
I think a true Bard should only use instruments/voice as weapons.
what??? why the sad face?
The problem comes in those 50% buffs. Let’s say you’re running a high M+ key; 50% buffs to self-healing of the three DPS in the room isn’t going to cut it, especially classes like Hunter where the self-heals are on long cooldowns. And if the Bard can only do 50% direct/standard healing, your party is going to get eaten up by Quaking or especially Grievous.
This isn’t so much an issue in a raid comp where there are more people in the room but in small groups, at best your DPS is going to have to do less DPS and more healing; at worst, you’re just going to fail outright.
Invisible songs? Doesnt the act of making sound makes people more aware of your position?