Banning GDKP is pointless

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Renauldo-crusader-strike

And you’re the arbitrator of how bad RMT is at any given time, with all this data you have access to? What a goofy reply.

i didnt think so.

[Renauldo-crusader-strike]

Tell me exactly how “bad” RMT is right now and tell me exactly what data you used to reach that conclusion?

[Kynteria-wyrmrest-accord]

I have no strong feelings on GDKP either way. That said I love that they banned GDKP so we can finally see who’s wrong and who’s right as we observe the amount of illicit gold and RMT influencing the economy.

The copium will be strong as phase 2 progresses for some people.

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

Here’s an actual analogy to what the OP is saying.

People are littering.
Littering gets banned.
Attention: “But…but some people will still litter and not get caught!”

it’s more like

People are littering.
Blue Plastic straws sold only on wednesdays get banned.
Everyone rejoices that littering is solved.
Attention: what about all this trash everywhere still?

[Gwennedl-grobbulus]

@Kynteria-wyrmrest-accord

That said I love that they banned GDKP so we can finally see who’s wrong and who’s right as we observe the amount of illicit gold and RMT influencing the economy.

Yea, I feel the same. I can’t wait to see whos right and who’s wrong.

Gonna be far funnier though if nothing changes lol

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Renauldo-crusader-strike

Tell me exactly how “bad” RMT is right now and tell me exactly what data you used to reach that conclusion?

RMT is VERY bad. there are several great videos out about it you can watch. small wharehouses full of computer screens with like 30-50 accounts per screen farming. A simple google search will give you nearly infinite sites to buy gold from for every single version of wow you can think of, including private servers.

you can also go to certain known places that are bot hotspot choke points on your very own server and watch bots flyhack like crazy. Or do a /who for the known instances they farm on repeat and see your screen full of names like “owieurowie” and “jksdjfksd”.

The information is out there if you take some time to look.

[Renauldo-crusader-strike]

I agree that RMT is awful right now possibly worse than ever in the history of WoW, but how do you expect to compare that to what happens in the near future with any degree of certainty?

[Kaheru-bloodsail-buccaneers]

@Gwennedl-grobbulus

Gonna be far funnier though if nothing changes lol

I reckon bots will just wring out tons of BOE’s and that will be the new popular commodity since spending gold in raid is now a thing of the past. Things won’t change much.

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Renauldo-crusader-strike

I agree that RMT is awful right now possibly worse than ever in the history of WoW, but how do you expect to compare that to what happens in the near future with any degree of certainty?

i already know how it will be, because all that matters is this: Can they still make money. The answer is yes, they can still make just as much money as before…so the bot/RMT problem will remain unchanged. The only way to make anything different is to make the profit impossible or the act impossible. Otherwise nothing will change.

[Gwennedl-grobbulus]

Agreed, bots and RMT are here to stay as long as blizzard refuses to do anything about them. GDKP was a tool and they took that tool away and there are plenty of other tools there for use. I’d rather be wrong and it demolishes a large portion of RMT… but again, it’s blizzard.

[Wiky-daggerspine]

Gotta be honest here with the removal of GDKP WoW Sod is one of the least P2W MMorpgs you can play. We have a none P2W MMorpg with no microtransactions, the game really couldn’t be in a healthier state than it will be at the start of phase 2

[Kaheru-bloodsail-buccaneers]

botters will adapt to anything that is thrown their way unless all uses for gold are practically nonexistent. The people looking to make gold will also adapt as long as gold exists as well and this in turn will increase the desire to buy gold from some types.

[Renauldo-crusader-strike]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

He’s not saying the status quo. He said unless every single gold farmer quits Classic, and unless RMT is completely eradicated from the game, that banning GDKPs is pointless.

That is an absurd argument that no one is going to take seriously. It’s just a horrible strawman argument.

@Attention-lone-wolf

ooof this is a pretty silly lie to post in a forum where people can scroll up and see your lies written out for them…maybe take an L and walk away for the night friend.

@Attention-lone-wolf

i already know how it will be, because all that matters is this: Can they still make money. The answer is yes, they can still make just as much money as before…so the bot/RMT problem will remain unchanged. The only way to make anything different is to make the profit impossible or the act impossible. Otherwise nothing will change.

You can’t seem to keep your story straight here.

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Wiky-daggerspine

Gotta be honest here with the removal of GDKP WoW Sod is one of the least P2W MMorpgs you can play. We have a none P2W MMorpg with no microtransactions, the game really couldn’t be in a healthier state than it will be at the start of phase 2

you can still buy everything the game has to offer with gold. You can still buy gold with GDKP gone. It’s literally no different than before lol…hell you can still buy BiS gear on the AH with gold after GDKP is gone.

[Wiky-daggerspine]

@Attention-lone-wolf

can still buy BiS gear on the AH with gold after GDKP is gone.

Raid loot is eclipsing BOE world drops in power level. Sure there might be the odd world drop that is still really good, but even something like staff of jordan is very far from bis

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Renauldo-crusader-strike

You can’t seem to keep your story straight here.

no that all adds up. I’m not saying every gold farmer needs to quit. I’m saying taking out GDKP won’t remove even a single gold farmer. THAT is why it’s pointless…it’s not that it accomplishes to little, it’s that it literally does nothing. Which i have been clear about throughout.

[Gwennedl-grobbulus]

Pretty much, this isn’t a perfect world and thinking people aren’t going to search for the most efficient way to reach what they want… is just ridiculous. People are going to figure out another way and still get exactly what they want, whether blizzard wills it or not. These people who think removing GDKP is some great feat… are sieging a fortress without siege equipment.

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Wiky-daggerspine

Raid loot is eclipsing BOE world drops in power level. Sure there might be the odd world drop that is still really good, but even something like staff of jordan is very far from bis

1. Boosts
2. Professions
3. Gear
4. Consumes
5. Mounts
6. Cosmetics

Off the top of my head the things that people buy with gold…none of those go away with GDKP gone.

[Renauldo-crusader-strike]

I’ve heard a lot of people mention that the price of gold dropped dramatically after the announcement, does logic not dictate that it’s already accomplished a lot?

[Attention-lone-wolf]

@Renauldo-crusader-strike

I’ve heard a lot of people mention that the price of gold dropped dramatically after the announcement, does logic not dictate that it’s already accomplished a lot?

I didn’t google the price of gold before and after so i can’t answer to that.