The irony is hilarious, people just want something else to blame for their problems instead of accepting that they don’t know the dungeons that well and don’t have the experience even if they can pull the damage needed
This thread is fake news. Another troll using a current trendy topic as bait.
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Thread is very obvious bait.
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No one is using Raider IO for regular mythics. 
Did you find achievements, ilevel, and Gearscore offensive too?
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That is a you problem, no a RIO problem. I haven’t touched Mythic this season and I did M-Mechagon, +2 Atal’, +5 Underrot last week just fine.
You have to know when and how to do it. Also you need to be actually prepared.
HOWEVER, seeing as you have already run some +6 Keys on that character… I fail to see how is this NOT a bait thread.
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I couldn’t get into a +15 group with my highest key done being +4. Yes plz fix ty
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You don’t know how Raider IO works do you?
Go to your character armory page on WoW’s armory. See you Mythic+/Raiding progress?
Raider IO takes and scans that information then has score points for them. 10 points times the keystone level so a +10 in time gives 100 io points at the very least.
So for Raider IO to be removed or banned Blizzard would have to take down the data which is on everyone’s armory pages of their progressions so they can’t scan it.
So IO will not be banned like the hundreds of other threads have stated.
Now if you want to improve your IO (also the site is free I would link your account and designate a main so players can see you main’s IO) go and do a M0 get a keystone then grind it. Form your own groups.
No I’m saying that some dude sitting behind his keyboard having a Power Trip shouldn’t be able to dictate to other people whether or not they get to do the end game content or not. And since the vast majority of raid leaders who do that high end content are exactly that it makes it very difficult for lower end players to get their foot in the door.
This kind of elitist gatekeeping has been a problem since vanilla. and it’s why many players myself included just stay away from it entirely it’s just not worth dealing with.
Elitism…
Sure it’s there but mostly it’s standards and competition for spots.
But walking into a job interview with a blank resume and then claiming elitism when you don’t get hired…
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No. There is nothing wrong with raider io. There are, however, people that use it incorrectly and ask for a score well above what is necessary for the dungeon they’re trying to do.
I’d offer to help boost you if I had a horde character capable of boosting but I do not.
I will have in 8.3.
Good Lord, I haven’t heard that term in AGES.
I don’t understand how my experience can be completely opposite of yours. I run keys with 4 characters without any problems. Once my IL is over 400, I just request invite to +2 or +3’s. If I request invite to a bunch of them, I usually get invited to one of them. I run 2’s and 3’s until my IL is around 415, then I request invite to +4 - 6. Then once you time a few of those, you will have a nice little io rating, and you should be able to get into anything under a 10. Then once you have timed all the dungeons at 7-9, you shouldn’t have a problem getting into 10’s. It takes a while, but if you like running mythic pluses, it’s a fun process.
Now, I won’t even ask for an invite if the group lead doesn’t have a decent io score. The beggar becomes the chooser.
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So nothing changed.
Its also an issue when someone with little to no experience is demanding that a system that works (mostly) gets removed because they can’t be bothered to start their own groups.
The issue is the player more than the system, you can make a group, choose who get in that group and use what ever filtering system you want to make the group.
My guess is that if he did make a group, the first three dps and healer that joined would not be his only filter.
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Their key their rules dont like it push your own key
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I don’t understand why people do not understand this concept. Their group, their rules. Don’t like them, make your own.
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Sure, lets ban Raider IO, WoWprogress and WarcraftLogs, all of which are used for similar purposes…so they can go out and make another one which does exactly the same thing.
Pointless thread is pointless.
I just find it funny that every season people grind their keys up to the 8,9,and 10 level yet we still have people on here that supposably can’t even get I to a 5 you legit just have to be a trash can or just unable to pay attention at that point
I’ve always had a lot of issues with this mentality of elitism keeping you from from doing content. Even before I started raiding with a designated group, I found Heroic pugs or started them to run the content. When it was my group, I could choose who to invite and we always got the job done.
I will never judge someone for what they say without knowing what their experience is in game, but there are many people who don’t want to improve themselves and are looking for a carry, because “they pay for the game and monthly, they should be allowed in groups/to run content without any Gates keeping them back.” While there are some toxic people at the top, there are just as many people at the bottom who are entitled and toxic in their own right.
As a side note to the OP: whenever I want to run a key, I make sure my character is 400 at minimum and then I either run a M0 and get my own key or start at a +2. You cannot pull your weight if you aren’t experienced with either your character or the content if you’re trying for something +10 and beyond, and learning should start at the bottom. With ilvl being so inflated, many people think they are entitled to groups because they’re 425 or something. But it’s unbelievable the number of people at 425 who pull lower than my 400 character because they got there without learning how to play or perform their rotation not only properly, but in hectic combat that tends to happen in M+/raids.
And, in my experience, if I invite people without looking at IO scores, I get Tanks who think pulling the ticks in Underrot on bursting week at +14 is a good idea. Twice. Or I get people who don’t know interrupt rotations, or how to LoS pull. I’ve tried pugging without IO and it’s a nightmare. Sure I get a few okay groups, but the vast majority are bad. So I’ll continue running either with my group or looking for people who have done the content I’m looking for.
And disclosure: my IO score is low. I don’t like M+, but when I do it, I do know how. I just stick mostly with guild groups for the weekly. I also hate this season’s affix so I’ve done a lot less than before.
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How do you know your are getting rejected do to RaiderIO. Are they telling you? Maybe your gearscore is too low for them? Maybe there are 10000000 DPS signing up so what makes you so special to pick?
When i make my own groups within a few moments there are a dozen DPS that sign up i just randomly pick or pick a class that might be useful…
When i try to sign up to anothers group never had anyone message me saying sorry low io score
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Elitism by itself is not toxic, a guild that is pushing challenging content (like higher end raiding and PvP) needs some level of elitism, you see when you have a group of players all doing their best and working together towards the goal of progressing, bringing someone who’s not on the same mindset or not as prepared or that’s a liability to the group is not fair for all those that are working hard.
Now, someone being elitist for trivial content, sure, that I agree it’s toxic. High end raiding and PvP is not trivial content. Standards are needed for groups wanting to progress on this content and in this context what’s toxic is acting entitled like if everyone needs to take you even if you don’t meet the standards the group is looking for.
Seems like you are talking about raid/group leaders?, well they are expected to find players with appropriate skill/experience to do the content they are looking to do, the rest of the group trusts them to do so and bringing players who are not qualified so they can be carried would be a disservice to the rest of the group.
Besides, no one has the power for denying another player from doing end game content, the most they can do is deny you from joining their group.
What?, no, it’s very easy, pretty much all Normal raiding guilds will take anyone that shows up consistently with no real prior experience needed, once you can consistently do well there it’s very easy to jump to Heroic and again pretty much every Heroic guild will take you, then once you are comfortable and performing well in Heroic it’s easy to be accepted into a 2-day Mythic guild and progress from there.
Unless you are looking to jump straight into a 1-shot heroic run or Mythic group, which means you want to be carried.