Sure, the crappy design in this case was Blizzards ineptness / unwillingness to control RMT/Bots.
No. Itās the āesportsificationā of PVE. Really started happening in WOTLK.
Connect the dots.
Like in real life, all of these things can be true.
People taking PvE too seriously (aiming for higher numbers and faster clear times against NPCs) & loot systems that reward the best loot in the game to the person with the highest gold amount in a market completely unchecked by Blizzard are BOTH reasons why RMT exist.
There are items selling for 500+g already on Crusader Strike. The RMT is rampant.
GDKP is 100% tied to RMT and you know it, stop being intellectually dishonest about what you are defending. People that like the GDKP system are MOSTLY gold buyers and organizers. It destroys the pug system for the rest of the people playing the game without swiping a credit card to get ahead. Be honest about what you are defending.
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The auction house is 100% tied to RMT and promotes bots
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I know right? Itās like dungeon and raid items are mostly soulbound for a reason, uhn? Troll. The mental gymnastics of these people are out of control. We all know blizzard is not going to do anything about that system, the game will follow the same path as WOTLK and crash and burn like wrath did, so this entire thread is pointless. You people need to stop lying about what you are defending.
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I mean , go for it I guess
But even my anti social self got into a guild that runs BFD every night, with very fair loot rolls and we clear so fast itās a blur
Sign ups are obviously filled by many different people of course as you canāt run BFD every night, but the guild has them running every night starting one group at 10pm the other at 11pm
Havenāt timed it but we do 30 minutes easy Iād guess . Dont even use consumes anymore.
Those items become bound when you equip them kind of like auction House items right?
But yeah Iām sure everybody has an extra 300 gold right now to throw away at mantle of thieves.
You can be in denial all you want the auction house is the biggest culprit.
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Why donāt you stop being intellectually dishonest? You know very well that GDKP != RMT and can and would survive quite well within a completely RMT/Bot free World of Warcraft, if we were able to create one.
Iām not defending RMT nor botting, nor am I am advocating for any of that, but pretending that anyone who attempts to look at GDKP objectively as a loot system that gives perhaps the most autonomy to all involved is being intellectually dishonest is just huffing your chest and saying, āNo you are!ā
Now listen, Iām not sure what you personally are doing, and I donāt mean to bring ad hominem into play here, because it doesnāt matter if you are actively running GDKPs while making the statements you are or not, the content of our conversation should be able to speak for itself, but I do want to point out that I am actively running 2 (and soon to be 3) BiS > MS > OS raids, every lockout without issue.
If GDKP as a system is bringing people away from raid leaders that they donāt want to raid with but previously had no choice, I would consider that to be a good thing. Now, Iām not trying to say that that is always the case, but itās a fine system that rewards its participants fairly with a universally useful DKP (that is gold).
That you personally think the only way for anyone in the game to get gold is through swiping their credit card not only makes one question where you think the gold they are buying comes from to begin with (not that I actually know, and perhaps Iām naive for thinking it comes from within the game), but it also completely ignores the countless players who are enjoying the game just fine, and contributing in very heathly ways to he economy, the playerbase, the community as a whole and just having fun.
You be honest! What the heck are you even talking about? Is there are large number of people that buy gold?
And do people who buy gold support bots, third-party services, credit card fraud and all sorts of other questionable ways that people might benefit at the expense of the game we play? It sure seems like that happens A LOT. I was SHOCKED at the price of tokens in Wrath being only 4.5K gold for as long as they were, and I think that speaks volumes to the amount of people who play this game that would buy gold and both do and normally donāt.
I am not denying gold buying exists. GDKP is NOT gold buying though, and you calling anyone who supports GDKP as a loot system a gold buyer or a supporter is equivalent, imo to someone calling anyone who supports loot distribution systems being tied to a single raid leader or guildās point system as supporting dictators. I think both of those claims may sometimes be true, but certainly are not unequivocally true, nor do I believe that they are even true the majority of the time, or even relatively often.
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GDKPs are not the problem. Botting and RMT are, which are already banned.
Banning GDKPs would be heavy handed and difficult to enforce.
iām not sure what youāre on i donāt think iāve even seen a gdkp advertised on my server. Maybe thatās just because i havenāt been looking for them, but i donāt see them wall to wall spammed like they are in wotlk.
in anycase gdkp for phase one of sod is just a tax on stupidity
Saw items going for over 100 gold like week 2-3. Meaning, once again this is just being used by botters and swipers.
The GDKP ban has been a positive development for Season of Discovery, and it would be beneficial to see it adopted in all versions of WoW. It encourages players to build genuine relationships with others rather than relying on RMT websites. Perhaps this will even lead some players to save money, as they wonāt be spending thousands each month on virtual items. Then they can finally move out their parentās basements and become real adults. (doubtful)