Ban GDKP on the fresh server
thats reasonable. Then once the fresh server merges with era you have access to GDKP
Assuming your talking new raids, etc, thats not exactly a true statement, though is partly correct. GDKP is poor system for guilds , especially those running progression, as the main thing it really brings to the table is an incentive for geared capable players to join the raid, which simply doesn’t exist when you are doing progression. Which is why you see most guilds running LC or things like MS/OS, SR, Suicide Kings, or even a variety of DKP systems.
So yes, if there were new harder raids, you likely wouldn’t see GDKP in those fore a while as most would be limited to guild runs, a good example in TBC there was little chance you would see a Sunwell GDKP run prior to the nerf, the raid was simply to difficult. For all the other raids, what had to be nerfed because pugs and many guilds found them to difficult, GDKP worked well for those especially since they had people helping them thru, and many people saw content they wouldn’t have otherwise seen.
Ban GDKP in every version of the game let the players actually earn there full clears and not pay to get carried for full clears!!! There are ALOT of players who if they where in a real guild would not be able to clear full heroic that is why they GDKP to buy there full clears.
If only Molten Core had legendary items that even a fully Naxx-geared player might want
Or if BWL had trinkets that last until the end of time
Or if ZG had idols for enchants…
Classic incentivizes everything by itself. You don’t need additional systems. The need for obscene amounts of gold just to get gear creates more barriers for newer players, not less.
So you expect geared players to carry people through an entire MC run when they and their friends can easily do a 10m binding run in about 15 to 20 minutes and just shard everything, or bring a few of their own alts to scoop up what little gear drops on the couple bosses they kill?
See this is why you don’t see a lot of pug MCs outside of GDKP, you think that there is incentive, but there isn’t, any guild that wants bindings, will just run a few binding runs on an off day, usually with 10-15 people, it’s simple, its easy and you don’t have to deal with all the wanna be raiders who can’t often even manage simple content and will pull unneeded mobs, or wipe the raid because they are to stupid to get away from the raid when they are the bomb.
There isn’t a single raid that a quality small group of geared players can’t 10-15 man outside of probably AQ40/Naxx. All without the hassle of having to carry pugs who don’t contribute.
Killing Garr and Geddon with 10 people isn’t a 15 minute thing
And even players clearing Naxx will want a shot at Onslaught Girdle, Bonereaver’s Edge, Choker of the Firelord, Malistar’s Defender, Hand of Rag… need a full run for those.
Classic is perfectly designed to incentivize all raids. That’s why classic servers have longevity and other expansions don’t.
GDKP exists because people are buying gold. That’s the only reason. It doesn’t solve any problems. It creates them.
Keep on believing that, maybe those people you think are there to carry you to the free welfare epics will show up.
Actually participating with a guild that does binding runs a few times a week, the only reason we do MC is for bindings and no it doesn’t usually take us that long. That said, its not exactly hard to clear the rest so even if people wanted to do the more, they would just bring some guildies along to scoop up the loot, they wont want to carry scrubs who just are there for loot.
I’m not anti RDF though.
You just hate me because I told you your half and half trash can build is holding you back and you cried irl about it lol
Neither does going off on pointless tangents that have nothing to do with GDKP.
This is why guilds are a thing to help each other!! GDKPs are toxic as they ruin the guild atmosphere. and that is What a mmo is based off not your own selfish desires.
I’ve seen guilds die to gdkps. The common reason was because it was a “semi hardcore” guild and the better players got tired of carrying the bads for free. The better players push for the removal of the bads in place for those who aren’t bad, are met with “we’re semi hardcore” then the good players leave and make the guild into a broken casual guild because the good players were the ones keeping the raids going.
You call it selfish desires but isn’t it even more selfish for players to show up to raid unprepared, without care, drunk, ignoring comms, and ultimately making other people’s nights harder more selfish? I think so. I’d spend hours upon hours farming rocks to afford everything for raid, while these bads showed up as leeches, calling me a sweat while still taking the loot I parsed for them for free.
I’m tired of being called selfish just because I want players around me to play at my level, or pay to be a detriment over paying nothing to be a detriment.
While I almost always raid in guild runs as I feel thats the best way to do it, I have always found pug SR runs to be far more toxic, and GDKPs relatively casual, and far more enjoyable. Obviously my experience will differ from others, and I also run very few non guild runs.
Also it’s not selfish to want something for your time, what’s truly selfish is expecting others to carry you thru content for free because you entitled to it. That kind of thinking where they owe you something, and if they don’t it’s because they are selfish is the true toxic behavior.
TOXIC GAMEPLAY!!!
Entitled much?
Refusing to help your guildie is TOXIC!!! I dont like helping random people but i will help a guildie.
That’s your only response?
Yeah I’d make you pay to be a detriment.
No, you’re not going to headcanon this. I went out of my way to help those bads, and they refused.
If they didn’t refuse, then there wouldn’t have been an issue. I don’t demand 100 parses, I demand higher than green parses, and they still failed that.
So yes they’ll pay to be a detriment.
See now that is a different story. I agree with you on that!!! But at the same time if your not in a parse chasing hard core guild and your acting like an elitest that is toxic
No, it’s the same story but without your schzio headcanon shoved in.
Are you stupid?
I demanded they play at an average level and you’re calling that parse chasing?
Now it makes sense why you demand feral to be buffed, you need all the help you really can get.