Prejudice, discrimination, antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership.
Aka refering to every gdkper as a “swiper”
It’s a slur that is an unfounded stereotype. If 1 out of every 50 gdkpers bought gold, it doesn’t mean they all did. I assure you, non gdkpers bought gold aswell. The amount of hate towards people who enjoy a loot system and raiding community is crazy. It does indeed border on a form of racism or segregation.
Amusingly, I actually follow Mike Godwin on the bird app. 
You’re missing a vital piece of nuance, although calling it nuance does a disservice to the concept.
You can choose to gamble or not gamble on items; you can’t choose to be black or some variation of Asian.
If anything it’s a self-inflicted segregation, a word that doesn’t really fit considering the historical usage of it and the direct harm inflicted by it, from the creation of the concept of race in order to justify massive crimes against humanity centuries ago to the very real lack of generational wealth non-white people feel the effects of to this day.
If anything, it’s like billionaires complaining about how they can’t connect with anyone else on a level that doesn’t involve money; you’re doing this to yourself by making a choice, and choosing differently would lead to different outcomes. I choose not to raid at all, so outside of the stuff that drops from dungeons because A/B/G and badges, I don’t have raid-level equipment. I accept the consequences of my choice and don’t complain about not being able to walk around with a Shadowmourne on this character.
Again, you are categorizing people as all swipers. People GDKP for the better quality of raids and the reward of walking away with gains no matter what.
Kind of funny blizzard is allowing it to happen.
This is the master loot issue all over again but worse by 500%
no. thanks.
Makes me wonder why you’re giving your opinions in threads about a raid loot system.
Are you trying to say preferring GDKP is a basically a gambling addiction? Auctions are not gambling. Rolling on loot is gambling. Like, what? I love when people who’ve never even done a GDKP share their stupid, uninformed opinions about them.
This is actually really indicative of real life.
Often the people who don’t even participate are the loudest and ruin things.
Because the amount of gold involves in them screws with the ingame economy, inflating prices for commodities and thusly making everything more expensive.
Don’t need to raid to know that people sitting on millions of gold is going to cause some problems if you’re trying to buy some cloth or whatever.
It’s a more apt metaphor than “anti-GDKP people are little more than racists,” though I think comparing them to billionaires later was more much appropriate, hence why I dropped the previous line of thinking when I did.
Just because someone doesn’t participate doesn’t mean they don’t feel the effects; there’s a reason I never bothered putting any Scourgestones into Saronite to sell to others, for example.
I was unaware that there was a race known as GDKP or Swiper.
You learn something new every day.
Those ‘gains’ come from gold buyers. You can’t pretend you don’t know that. Even the people not buying gold are walking away with a cut from people who do.
Then that dirty money gets spread across the whole server. Think of all the GDKPs that are run. That is a huge amount of illicit gold getting added to the economy.
Gold that was farmed by bots. Gold that wouldn’t exist if not for the fact that whales want to buy gear in raids, and enablers who want a cut of that money.
Another group that seems unable to own their limitations; they don’t have the skills to get the raid loot, but they have enough IRL money (whether by paying for the gold directly or not needing to spend as much time working IRL in order to farm the gold) to buy it instead.
People are really weird when it comes to epeen.
Yes, I insult you by saying you’d like to control everyone else’s life through penalties and rewards. Read your own words.
Even if Blizzard was actually competent in policing gold buying, GDKP would be the best pug loot system for reasons people have articulated many times over on these forums. It’s not the fault of legitimate players that Blizz can’t do their jobs.
Very few players have millions of gold, I’m not convinced that that is a problem worth losing the best pug loot system.
GDKPs typically run far more smoothly than other pugs because good players actually have an incentive to go besides a chance to win loot by rolling. Something you might be aware of if you had ever done one.
If Blizz ‘did their job’ you legitimate players would lose the reason to do GDKPs. Those seed Whales are the backbone of GDKPs.
As someone who actually does GDKPs, I disagree. Even small cuts (which, by the way, happen frequently already; whale GDKPs just get the spotlight) would be better than watching people you just carried out roll you on loot that’s not even bis for them lol. Even small cuts would incentivize staying the whole raid.
There’s no point in arguing with them. They just see all GDKPs as evil regardless of anything else. Even though Blizzard CS has said multiple times that getting illicit gold in a GDKP can get the whole raid temp banned, they still cling to this notion that GDKPs launder or wash gold. Realistically, if as much RMT was going into GDKPs as they believe, GDKPs would disappear just from all the bans going out. Most gold buyers can’t even get into GDKPs because they have crappy parses or no logs at all.
Prove it.
Show me which person in my GDKP has bought gold. You do know you can make 20k a week nearly passively.
You have a amazingly consistent track record of having garbage opinions on these forums and share the mindset that many many many grey parsers and people I don’t want in my raids have. I’m willing to wager that you’ve never even had above 50k at one time and you’ll claim only GDKPers have that much.
So, if you ruin everyone elses week. You shouldn’t be punished?
I’ve spotted the entitled American, you refuse to accept accountability.
Willful ignorance isn’t a great defense.
A lot of GDKPers over the past week have admitted they known that cut of gold they get comes from whales. At least they’re honest about it. They just don’t care.
Actually most of the gold gained from GDKP’s aren’t spent on items in the AH, they’d rather hold it and spend it on other GDKP’s they do and what they do spend will most likely not be enough to make a dent in the market because they’re not flipping items, they’re just buying raid consumes, enchants and maybe gems.
What actually increases the price of items are people like me, people who flip items to make gold. I sometimes make items 300% of their market value after buying out the entire stock, it’s rare but it does happen.
I even “drip feed” the items back so that I don’t flood the market with 200 stacks of X item so that the price is more controllable.
I made a post like a year or two ago about GDKP, in it I said that GDKP’s aren’t inherently bad but they do incentivize RMT simply because gold is used as the determining factor in who gets the gear. It’s not gambling, gambling has some risk associated to it, GDKP’s have no risk, you lose nothing if you don’t get the item you wanted and in fact gain gold at the end of the run.
You still should’ve, even if other people were doing it it’s easy gold.
Well most GDKP’s operate on a merit system where if you mess up you either lose out on the chance to bid for gear or you simply just don’t get your cut of gold so you need to have some skill to be a part of GDKP’s.
GDKP’s are the best loot system in an inperfect world, in a perfect world that’d be loot council.
I only have ~260k and that’s from flipping.
Why do people buy from 3rd parties at all when you can just buy and sell a WoW Token and not get in trouble?
It’s cheaper.