Hello. A friend of mine has been on a 14 day ban since 9/22, with zero activity on his appeal so far. He was banned for trading his retail gold for classic gold, which is not really against ToS (as I understand it). Not endorsed but not against. He has had an active sub since original vanilla, with no bans that entire time. Now he gets auto-banned for classic wotlk launch. Can we get some insight on the ban and how much longer he can anticipate waiting for his appeal to be even looked at? His launch is already irreparably ruined over this so trying to get a very longtime player back into the game.
That’s not what your friend would have been suspended for. While not explicitly against the rules, this almost always includes illicit gold.
Nope, that would have just been a ban. There are no “auto-bans” despite what some people wish to believe.
He just needs to wait for his ticket to get to the front of the queue. Tickets are at about 7-8days or so. Depending on when your friend appealed, it should be near the front of the line.
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There is no automation in the ban.
If they wanted this to be a thing, they would sanction a way for it. What happens often is that on some side of the transaction, illicit gold purchased from a third party is involved. While his gold on retail may have been legit, the gold he received could have been dirty. Even though he didn’t buy from a third party directly, he was still the recipient.
That said, it is between him and Blizzard. You have no part in the conversation. One of our SFAs may be able to confirm his ticket is in the system, but they will not discuss it with you any further than that, I’m afraid.
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I am telling you this is what it was. He had/has millions of retail gold he traded for classic gold. Funny enough the ticket was just seen and upheld by Blizzard. This is absolutely insane. Nearly two decades of subscription money and perfect behavior and this is what he gets.
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I have no doubt that’s what he told you,but Blizzard wouldn’t have given him that sort of specifics. They don’t say things like “You were suspended for trading gold between Retail and Classic”. That’s not the sort of detail they’d give someone.
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I hear you that they won’t give specifics, but that is all that has happened. Only thing that is possible is the gold he received was compromised gold. So much for being a loyal player and customer through all the other stuff the company has gone through. Thanks for nothing Blizzard.
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Doesn’t mean anything to be honest. Either we are customers or not. We are all bound by the rules.
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The problem with this is the rules are “The exchange of gold or items with another player on a different realm or faction is entirely at your own risk. If you are the victim of a scam, contact us. Game Masters cannot restore any of your losses, but will take action against confirmed scammers whenever possible so they won’t scam other players.” Full stop. Nothing saying it is against the rules. If he had illicit gold, take it away. Maybe even restore the retail gold, idk. But to ban a nearly two decade player with zero prior offenses is completely ridiculous.
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He’s not banned. He’s suspended, that is two completely different things. It could have been full-on account closure had they wanted to, but they decided a temporary suspension would hopefully curb any other questionable behavior in the future.
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Ok I will rephrase, a TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF 14 DAYS for a nearly two decade player with zero prior offenses is completely rediculous. Especially for the classic wotlk launch.
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Note - that risk also includes the possibility of others using illicitly obtained gold to complete the transaction.
They’re not going to wait to apply account penalty - that defeats the purpose.
But gold selling/buying via illicit means is one of the most nefarious rule breaches of the game. Blizzard is historically harsh on those directly buying/selling - and towards those receiving illicit gold too.
Chances are - there has been a pattern. Remember, Blizzard can see a huge amount of detail in their game via the logs.
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I’m sorry to say, but being a long-time player means nothing. A new player who started yesterday could have done what your friend did and they would both be hit with the same punishment. Our long play times do not entitle us to anything. He was involved with breaking the rules in some fashion. RMT or the like are pretty bad to be hit with, and the punishment reflects that. I’m sorry your friend is missing out, but we as players need to know who we’re dealing with in these unsupported transactions. Whomever he dealt with, that’s on the both of them.
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Most likely.
That has no bearing on penalties. They don’t care if it is a day one player, a player with 10 accounts, or a new player. Either the rules were broken or they were not. Fair is fair.
That will likely happen.
That won’t happen.
They used to perma ban for RMT. Consider a 2 week suspension a lenient penalty.
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No, nobody is laughing. Trying to derail threads though is not a good idea.
The original penalty for selling or buying gold was account closure, which was also not funny.
People are not supposed to like penalties. They are supposed to have a negative impact.
In this case the friend got an answer.
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Nothing petty about it, especially if they were caught trading real money for gold or trading illicit gold for legit gold. Unfortunately, this isn’t even the actual person who has been actioned, it’s a third-party account of what their friend told them…which is based completely on an assumption.
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Well, the original penalties for language were Suspensions. Starting 2016 they tried Silences which doubled each time for infinity. Although Suspensions were still possible.
As you know, about 6 months or more ago they went back to using Suspensions for people who have already had infractions.
In this case, someone who got 2 weeks for language is not on their first penalty.
Be nice. It is not hard to do.
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The moment you start infringing on another player’s enjoyment of the game, you open yourself up to sanction. And I’d advise you to be wary. Hijacking another’s thread rarely works out. Especially if you’re already in trouble for language. It wouldn’t likely be from one instance, and by posting here wanting to argue, you do open yourself up for one of our SFAs ripping your argument apart with all of the history leading up to your sanction.
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So, your argument is that you should be able to call other people morons if you feel like it? Personally, I’m glad to see Blizz taking action on this sort of unnecessary behaviour.
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Sorry, Snekysnakes, not that name calling of any kind would really be okay, but you weren’t penalized for calling someone a moron. That isn’t even in the chat log that I’m looking at.
There are many things you say that are inappropriate without the individual words being inappropriate themselves.
I understand you may be upset by the length of the suspension, but this could have easily been avoided. We even provided ample warnings and silences prior to this.
I’d recommend that you stop with the rampage through various threads with false and misleading statements.
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