Balancing the game solely around max level 3s is lazy and entitled, needs more tuning, especially pre-70

The idea that the game should only be balanced around one game mode at max level is lazy, entitled on the side of Trashivision/Blizzard, and the player base deserves better. We have modifiers that make abilities hit harder/softer in PVP vs PVE, why not adjust for BGs while leveling? Or just nerf certain classes, specifially MM hunters pre-level 70? BGs can and should be fun for leveling and max level… But when one specific class can two shot everyone with a farther range than any other class it’s time to make some adjustments. The “game is balanced around max level 3s” is a lazy and poor excuse.

Also, do people who play with experience turned off get put in the same BGs with people that have experience turned on?

I provided a screenshot as an example. These MM hunters can literally solo kill teams on nodes and just outrange all the DPS.

imgur(.)com/B2ftzKN

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At the very least, sub70 PvP needs templates and should probably be brackets of 5 levels, not 10.

There’s no reason to queue prior to 70 unless you “twink” each bracket or don’t mind getting dumpstered when the neo-twinks come along.

The disparity between questing greens and various tricks like Warforged WOD gear, syncd 70s, or Timewalking gear is just too big.

I doubt Blizzard will implement PvP modifiers per bracket.

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Low level pvp isn’t worth worrying about.

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I disagree. BGs are a very fun way to level when they are not completely dominated by one broken spec. I think they would be massively more enjoyable if Blizzard would spend a tiny bit of time trying to balance. Really all they need to do is adjust MM and the leveling BGs would not be so broken.

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Blizzard cares less about pre-70 pvp, than they do pvp in general.

But i will say that i would prefer the game much more if it wasnt balanced around arenas.
fudge arenas.

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Class balance is done at the arena level though. You cannot balance around random battlegrounds.

That’s like saying you can’t balance abilities around PVP when they are already implemented one way for PVE. Simply not true and also a very lazy way of thinking if you are a developer.

They build the game around PVE… Should the balance of abilities be the same in PVE as they are in PVP? It used to be that way and there is a good reason why they changed it… Class/spec balance in different game modes. I can sheep a PVE mob infinitely… Would you like to see DR go away in PVP?

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It’s not at all like that. You literally cannot balance classes in randoms.

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Hardly anyone even plays arena anymore, 3s are just glads and their alts at this point, bottom fell out & not coming back, solo shuffle is also dead.

From a money stand point there missing out I know some of us put hundreds of hours into pvp leveling the slow way compared to questing when it was possible.

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Saying you literally cannot is a lazy excuse. It would take a bit of effort but they absolutely can at least attempt to rather than just saying forget about it, it’s not 3s at max level. But way to keep the bar low expectations-wise for Trashivision/Blizzard.

It’s reality. Facts are hard. :wink:

Why is it that Blizzard “literally cannot balance classes in randoms”? I already gave you examples of how Blizzard can balance in BGs… Scale abilities differently, similarly to how they already do with PVP vs PVE at max level. Just do the same thing but put modifiers on abilities that are one/two shotting players while they level. It’s not hard to fathom.

And as much as I’m sure you value your opinion, you stating your opinion does not make it a fact lol. Get over yourself bud.

It’s not my opinion…it is fact.:slight_smile:

the 5 level split was tried and of course que times went up.
having a ten level range pretty much guarantees the higher level players will have a higher ilvl, more stamina and probably a few more talent points than someone at the bottom of the bracket.
now ask yourself why should they? why should a level 10 be as strong as a level 19?

twink history fact of the day:
the time when the brackets were 5 levels was also the time of the unkillable level 10’s.

Huh? Of course, you can. There have been balancing changes made specifically for battlegrounds in the past and there was a time when people did battlegrounds and there was no arena.

They just don’t give it much priority due to “e-sports.”

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Not for classes.

Hunters are just noob stompers. Doesnt mean they are good, just most people dont know how to deal with them. Most hunters in random bgs are easy kills for me.

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I believe it.

Kind of. I think most people have just reached their goals for the season and are chilling until the next one.

Yes, generally speaking.

If you see an MM in a random battleground then it’s quite likely they’re a FOTM re-roller. Still deadly when they know what they’re doing though.

Gotta respect the ones that stick to their guns and play BM/Surv. Especially Surv, lol.

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