Goes to show how racist orcs are at their core, and to some extent, tauren and troll, who have shared too much with them.
Thrall disgraces an ancient ceremony of his people, yet receives absolutely no backlash from it, apart from being cut out from his elemental powers (Which was probably just a way to kick him out of the story for good.)
If Sylvanas were to do it, the orcs would be up in arms and asking for her head in a pike.
No, I consider the armor of Orgrim Doomhammer, which Thrall wore in the mak’gora, to be armor.
It was stupid, imo. They have a spaceship for that type of stuff and they decided to do that? Also, the “most powerful mage on the planet” stuff never came off as authentic at all with her, seemed very very forced. Quite frankly Jaina and Anduin, imo, are the 2 worst written characters in this story, probably because they were given the most attention, poor things. The only one in close competition is Saurfang for me.
I would complain about Talanji but she is so boring it is hard to care. And they killed the most interesting new leader in this new raid, so meh.
The only thing that Thrall had, that was even close to Orgrim- was the bracers. Everything else was cloth.
The spaceship can poke tiny little holes in stuff. People greatly overestimate how powerful it is.
Not really. She is responsible for Derek Proudmoore’s torture and is the one that the Forsaken on that ship fought for.
So… let’s say you have a corrupt faction… and there are a group of people in control of it who are not good. What do you consider the rebels? Murderers? Or just another group fighting for a different cause?
I mean watch the video, he’s got the armor on under the robes, this isnt debatable.
Why is torturing a Forsaken worse than murdering a group of them?
By comparison is Jaina? I would agree. She is on a whole other level. Hell, we wouldnt even have needed illidan, the space ship, or even the Dranari if she would have been there the whole time.
Because the group was given a choice.
So you disagree with your military’s plan and decide to storm a ship, kill its crew and officers. What do you think your punishment would be? Especially since it was to save 1 forsaken by killing dozens of others.
No they weren’t. He never offered to let them surrender. He never announced his intentions. He attacked them out of the blue. Also at the end he said “Nobody can know you were here”. How does that bode for those who surrendered?
Depends on how you view the authority of the Warchief. By the same token was the horde wrong for defying Garrosh?
Her secret police was the only ones that died on that ship. Hard to think of that as a bad thing, imo.
They were Horde soldiers and Baine murdered them to save an “Alliance” Forsaken.
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I already have it right here but Thanks for the link.
But just to end this debate, since it is off topic (again)- Some facts to go over.
- Magic IS allowed in Mak’gora. Proven by Durotan’s challenge of Gul’dan. A known magic user.
- The set rules for this Mak’gora are unclear but whatever those are, there are rules that can not be broken once it starts. All of which Garrosh broke first. By throwing his weapon away and using his fists (a second weapon). That is a violation of Mak’gora.
- Only after this, does Thrall do the same and use magic (a second weapon).
The cheater was Garrosh and no amount of emotional manipulation is going to blur that fact (for me anyway).
The sailors were not her “Secret police”.
What? Gul’dan using magic was seen as cheating and dishonoring the entire practice.
You’re not getting it. Baine allowed those to surrender to continue on. They were spared. Those who wouldn’t kneel were killed because they chose to keep fighting.
Then what was “I surrender! No more” and then letting them run away?
It means you’re assuming things based off of little evidence.
I wouldnt count her Dark Rangers as horde, personally. Secret police have pretty significant implications at least historically. I mean, she has been a total failure of a Warchief this xpac, honestly, I dont even understand why Baine felt the need to rebel this way, none of it makes sense.
She is losing this war and isolating faction leaders… As it stands this xpac she has brought nothing to the table as a leader that has any significance or benefits. She has been a drain on the horde.
Without Gallywix she would be an absolute failure.