Baine logic (spoiler)

No. I’m pretty sure my comment was not directed at anyone other than myself.

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And Theramore was a staging area for Alliance forces to attack Orgrimmar and all the deaths there were Jaina’s fault .

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In relation to him betraying Sylvanas and her forces, yes.

I wouldnt say the deaths are Jaina’s fault, but yes, Theramore was absolutely a legitimate military target.

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So you remember when his father challenged Garrosh to a Mak’gora. I mean I have no idea why you think you understand the horde. Also lol at “Alliance tactic”. You really do need to look up Logical Fallacies. Also while we are talking about Alliance remember that cool mission where the Alliance met with a rogue horde leader, stormed a horde ship, killed its crew and officers, and then rescued the raised brother of Jania and returned him to her? Oh wait that was a horde quest…my mistake.

addressing zero arguments, calling people waifu posters, skirt chasers, passive aggressively saying they lack logic/brain power. these are personal attacks.
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Hamstar is a poster with too much common sense to have a waifu. I say this, and I’m on the side of Saurfang.

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You mean the one that resulted in him being poisoned and killed due to a traitor? By another Tauren? Sure. We can talk about THAT Mak’gora. One that even enraged Garrosh. Of all people.

By allowing the alliance to use Theramore as a staging zone she put all of those directly under her leadership in danger of possibly being killed in an attack of any kind.

Nobody except you people brought her up. I pointed out that he was willing to kill dozens of forsaken to rescue 1 forsaken and return him to Jaina. Suddenly you people started talking about Waffus and skirt chasing.

One prettyful undead is well worth the unlives of some uglyful undead

Let’s do this a better way.

An Ad Hominem would be replying directly TO YOU now and saying something personal (going off topic). That is an Ad Hominem. Which I have done to NO ONE in this entire topic.

Now go away. :wave:

Yes, but the fault of the deaths is on Garrosh, who attacked.

From what I remember of that quest, you only kill her secret police. None of the ordinary forsaken people die, you let them run away. I mean, HOW Baine decided to fight against her as warcheif is incredibly dumb, specially since after we talk to the racial leaders near all of them have issues with Sylvanas. All he would have had to do is publicly push back at her.

All that said, she lies to you and gives you a false reason to find Saurfang, then lies to you again after you find all the clues. After you decided to follow the information you got to Saurfang her secret police threatens you, because Sylvanas has decided to make a unilateral decision.

Combine this with her wanting you to help Baine out if you decide to report back to her and what you are left with was a plot for her to take out another horde leader who doesnt agree with her.

This would be ALMOST justifiable if it wasnt for the fact that we are losing the war, so all her scheming has resulted in absolutely nothing worth it.

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yes that would be ad hominem as was your other post in which you made disparaging comments about people rather than address any points they were making and cosigning another post which did the same. now disappear. :wave:

Yes the duel you said was an orc thing that his father fully embraced. You are just trying to deflect because you know that if Baine had honor either he would have challenged her. Also how about we talk about what Baine did to the one who poisoned his father while we are at it?

how about we talk about what Baine did to the one who poisoned his father while we are at it?

Maybe look up “tu quoque” which is a form of ad hominem attack aimed at a group of people.

He spared those who were willing to surrender.

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We all know that blizzard has plans for this to play out. A lot of things have made no sense and didn’t until a later time. Void elves just popping up with a story line, Nightborne being shoehorned in cause of Tyrande getting an attitude etc etc. I don’t feel it’s fair to make a full analysis until we see how that plays out. I agree- Vol’jin did a better job when it came to any form of rebellion but that’s why I believe there is more to it than we know/see.

No you kill the crew of the ship as well as its officers.

That doesn’t actually make it better.

Elaborate.