How are Horde telling people that it’s not the map just the players etc, yadda yadda and THEN whining about WSG/AB because they lose?
Did winning AV on a broken map create that much entitlement?
Enjoy the ques. I’ll AV on my alts to get rep and that’s it.
dude bro horde are just gods at team work and pvp but only on a single BG between retail and classic
2 different issues altogethar.
I do agree though that the cave should be moved.
??? You’re telling me horde was unable to premade? What stopped them?
AV is their jam!
AV isn’t broken, Alliance don’t have garbage positions to defend and IBGY/IBT combo is legit weak!
Horde are just that GOOD that they win 99% of the time. It’s pure Horde excellence!
Pretty sure that was out the window when they changed everything.
The cave is a significant difference, but there are more. When contesting SFGY if SHGY is assaulted, alliance rez at AS while horde rez at IBGY unless it’s assaulted, which is unlikely since alliance start farther from IBGY than horde from SHGY.
Horde gys, with the except of RH, are much more open with more than one way out unlike alliance gys that are like shooting fish in a barrel with one way out.
SHB is exposed while IBT is next to the gy and easier to defend.
Ivus summoning location is close to IBGY and in an open field while Lok’s summoning is on a hill and harder to disrupt.
DB has two back doors that are used often to assault DB bunkers and pull players off offense to recap.
Alliance recall on top of AS and are instantly attacked by guards if horde owned.
Vann’s room is bigger and horde can enter and stand on back wall without aggro’ing Vann or the warmasters. This isn’t possible in Drek’s room.
Balinda is weaker than Galv and horde get to Bal before alliance get to Galv making killing Galv award no honor.
Some of these are minor advantages, but combined, it has an impact.
this story makes me happy.
thank you, OP, for sharing it.
forever repent for your Phase 2 sins
and thy Unholy 30% of the map Spawn Cave
no they are not
Rolling Horde was your first mistake
Hey, moron, remember when alliance stopped queing because horde kept farming them in the cave.
Hey, moron, remember when half the alliance population quit in p2 because horde had raids camping every single flight path in the game.
Hey, moron, remember when everyone told you if you rolled on the massively over populated horde faction that you’d have to deal with your long queues?
Hey, moron, ever think to yourself “I’m actually the moron that caused all these problems in the first place”
Hey moron, there is no magical fix for battleground queues, you have twice as many players as alliance, that means you have to wait twice as long for a game to find opponents for you.
Why is the horde pvp scene full of such brains dead morons that thought they could all roll on the grossly imbalanced overpopulated faction and still think everything was gonna be smooth sailing for them, your actually brain dead and I wish the forums would let me use more expletives to describe just how stupid you are.
We all know premades were crushed because horde cried, not alliance. Blizzard doesn’t do anything to help alliance. The map is proof of that.
Unfortunately friend I don’t see a fix coming at the end of the day all we want to do is enjoy the aspect of the game we like. It’s sad how fast people on the forums will try to blame one another and derail discussions for some tribalism BS.
i remember alot of horde posts saying
“just group up and fight”
group up…
considering current horde posts regarding BGs i find this Hilariously ironic and hypocrite
along the ussual gitgut , reroll or quit
i have no consideration nor care about any of these “players” outcries for help
For my armor is contempt. My shield is disgust. My sword is hatred
they call all reroll or quit
And all those who are prideful and do not bow shall be layed low and made into dust. Lay down your weapons and succumb to the might of Shaka.
12*
As in, 12 hours.
I know ya’ll gotta be chiefing on some really good stuff if you believe that line of tauren droppings.
Put down the cool aid.
Whatever you say mr delusional
Get ready for AQ. Might get some more P2 action. Get your 
ready. Oh you guys never put it away.
Pssst. Let me tell you a secret. It’s coming again. AQ. Then again in Hellfire Peninsula. Probably be some wpvp carnage in wrath too.
Same thing that happened the first time around. Same result. Pvp will happen on pvp servers.
The criers should just save themselves the tears and roll pve servers. Going to be awhile before they get their Classic BFA servers and their warmode that 15 years of their crying got us.
PvP happens. On PvP. Servers.