Desperately grasping at straws to try to make it sound like what youre doing isnt clearly forming premade groups is honestly pretty cringe, and pretty silly. Weird how so many of the ally on my server openly admit to the fact they form premades and yet here you are making a moron out of yourself trying to claim there is absolutely no advantage being gained through an exploit here. And youre really acting like people dont go to queue up at the same time with a large party of their own guildies/friends at the same time others from other guilds/groups are doing the same? And like a good portion of those groups will get put together in the same AV?
I mean…wow lmao. Didnt think there were people actually this silly/dumb out there.
And here we go again… i guess i have to break it down for you some more… The alliance players that end up together, isnt a premade, their people that dosent know each other, come from difrent orgs, even cross servers… the ONLY edge they have, is that they share a discord and they can organice by talking…
Its still not a premade, you know it, i know it, everyone know it… and as i told you before, you horde can also talk to each other, using the inbuilt talk feature that wow comes with…
So no its not stupid, or silly, its about communication
And here we go again… i guess i have to break it down for you some more… The alliance players that end up together, isnt a premade, their people that dosent know each other, come from difrent orgs, even cross servers… the ONLY edge they have, is that they share a discord and they can organice by talking…
Its still not a premade, you know it, i know it, everyone know it… and as i told you before, you horde can also talk to each other, using the inbuilt talk feature that wow comes with…
So no its not stupid, or silly, its about communication
LOL.
You know youre delusional when youre actually trying to grasp THIS desperately at straws when every ally on my server openly talk about their premades and rub it in our faces. So no clue who youre trying to fool, you just look like a fool yourself.
Yeah, totally no edge at all! Yeah sure, completely random people who dont know each other! I guess lets ignore the guilds who queue up together in a group of 15-20 and coordinate that with another group of 10+ from another server and they end up getting 90% of their guild members in one game, so all those people dont know each other and have never played with each other? How dumb are you that you think you can claim its just a bunch of rando’s queueing with other rando’s that dont know each other when anyone can easily go see thats completely false (I mean, common sense would also tell you that but…).
Downplaying the significance of being on discord with each other/communication, and being organized, because thats not a HUGE advantage or anything. I mean really, im being trolled right? No one is genuinely this stupid that theyve deluded themselves to believe this is actually valid and true?
I liked the part where you say “its still not a premade, and everyone knows it” as youre in a thread where tons of ally are openly talking about and admitting, theyre (obviously) premades. And yet youre STILL arguing a completely objective matter, that makes you certifiably braindead to put it bluntly. If you dont like it, stop being brazen about showing off your own stupidity.
Day 1 AV alliance were getting around 2500 bonus honor and Horde were getting 3k for 10 minute games that alliance won 60% now horde is winning 90% of the games getting 6k honor per win and alliance is gy camped for 45 minutes to an hour getting 1k honor if that for an av that they never get to complete one objective.Yes, they technically are premades AVPREMADE is one of the discords and yes they are screwing their own faction by abandoning ques. No I am not saying defending is turtling. Alliance players wont even leave SHGY after they get rolled at galv its impossible to get anyone to go into towers to cap them or defend them for that matter. The mass majority of Alliance are gonna stop doing bgs because they are going to refuse to sit through the 45 minute games and yes out of 30 games I was in today 90% of them were 45 minutes or more. Both Sides are crying and complaining instead of working together to come up with solutions.
Don’t give up. Every healer counts. I’m tired to pvp without any support and when I see a disc/holy priest I think “someone with brains”, cus most of the time, priests are way more effective in healing during pvp than shamans, the preferred pve healers for the Horde.
Nah I Screwed myself with my name I walk in to a bg and get camped never get to do anything I am not worried about it I could careless Ive done the honor grind and have been rank 14 on 3 different toons I just cant believe that the community wont work together knowing blizzard isnt going to fix anything But atleast horde kill healers alliance cant even figure that out
What solution do you propose? Horde losing on purpose? Alliance not rushing?
The devs are the ones to be blamed. The horrible loot table to many classes on raids forces many of us to rank up on pvp to get some decent gear. I hate AV and yet is the best one for me to farm honor, get to rank 10 and fill the gap of the poor itemization to my arms warrior. And the model of the BGs is helping this state of chaos.
Call out the devs. They are the ones paid by us to come up with solutions. Not us. Is not Horde’s fault to be more pvp focused and popular, is not Alliance’s fault to come up with an organized solution. It is the fault of the devs.
I was more pointing at the trolls who are just making the situation worse rather than being constructive. Solution one would be allow group que would fix the premade issue without actually changing anything considering technically we should have group que. The devs wont change anything there’s to many #nochanges out there who would throw a fit when they don’t realize this isn’t vanilla its classic its the best blizzard could do without the original source code its why we are running on a frankenstiened version of the game. There has to be a compromise of some sort to make both sides playable Even if its make the warmasters one shot people till towers and bunkers are capped but that would just give more of an advantage to each side in certain scenarios so the only solution will have to come from the player base as far as I can see. Which means alliance and horde working together like it use to be on smaller servers but that is harder to do with CRBG’s
This quote ironically described what everyone is thinking whenever they read anything you post.
You’re so objectively wrong on everything that it’s clearly a waste of time trying to debate with you.
It has been proven with analysis that AV favours the Horde in almost every way. It has been proven that the world design favours the Horde in almost every way. And it’s completely farcical that you’re trying to convince people that there’s faction balance when everyone knows it’s false.
Even your own server is heavily Horde favoured, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you think it’s balanced too. That actually seems to be a pattern- Horde on heavily Horde favoured servers have had such an easy time that they have deluded themselves into believing there’s balance.
Naturally, the moment you face even numbers- you start whining like you do because you can’t come to terms with the objective fact that in a 1v1 ratio you don’t stand a chance.
If you want to call it a premade, then sure … But it isnt a premade, a full premade group, is five defined unique people that all que to something and all those five people will get logged in… same would be for a raid or any number… the short to isntant ques can mitigate who gets where to a extent, but its still random, and far from full control, like a premade
There is hundreds of people trying to get in at same time, some make it, some dont, those that do make it, go to a discord room so they can coordinate by voice… that isnt a premade, thats people randomly getting into a AV…
the only one here not understanding what a premade is, are you !.. you think you do, but you dont
It has been proven with analysis that AV favours the Horde in almost every way. It has been proven that the world design favours the Horde in almost every way
I stopped right here, how f***ing stupid do you have to be to think this? Everyone knows AV is favored by the Alliance. They have the most direct path and can cut corners to avoid conflict. SMH just stop talking, even Blizz admitted it’s favored for the alliance.
It’s pretty sad that there’s still Horde that think this, but I guess not surprising. We get it- we have a bridge, one you can just exploit to bypass with ease. Having a single good spot that can be easily ignored does not make for a huge advantage.
On the other hand- IBGY is the best choke point in the game, Horde archer support covers from Galv to FWGY, and the RH area whereas Alliance archer support doesn’t reach Balinda, SPGY, AS, or SHGY.
The Horde starts so close to the Field that they get the entire field uncontested, and can cut off Alliance at Balinda- a clear and massive headstart.
Horde have been obsessed with that bridge since it’s the only thing other than EMFH in pvp that hasn’t been in your favour for the last 15 years.
Also- Blizzard may have said AV favours Alliance, but Blizzard also admitted their devs are mostly Horde. It’s most of the reason why the game treats the Alliance like an afterthought and does all Horde content first.
their whole base and even the marshalls are set up so u can’t single pull vann, comparatively the alliance can avoid a mess and single pull drek if they need to.
But atleast horde kill healers alliance cant even figure that out
… But it isnt a premade, a full premade group, is five defined unique people that all que to something and all those five people will get logged in… same would be for a raid or any number… the short to isntant ques can mitigate who gets where to a extent, but its still random, and far from full control, like a premade