AV Premade cheating/exploiting

World pvp isn’t fair.

But instanced battleground pvp IS supposed to be fair.

You getting stomped in wold pvp because you were outnumbered is not the same thing as one team havunfair advantages in what is supposed to be a balanced competitive pvp game mode

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All of the tools available to alliance are also available to horde for coordination. The only difference is the faction imbalance, which up to this point heavily favored your side. The ones driving down the alliance playerbase are horde with their flight point, BRM, and instance portal camping throughout P2. It’s hilarious seeing this all play out exactly how we said it would, and you all ignored it. Now, there are hundreds of threads petitioning to Blizzard to fix the problem that your side created. You reap what you sow, and it is so sweet to see it.

Let’s be honest, you don’t give a single sh!t about the “casual alliance ranker”. You don’t give a sh!t about the casual alliance player in general. None of you did when it took hours just to get to some place like BRD. None of you did when it was literally impossible to get to a boat in menethil harbor. None of you did when it meant instant death flying into most high level zones. Blizzard didn’t do anything about it before, and they certainly won’t do anything about it now. Alliance players were the ones that coordinated and adapted in the face of overwhelming odds, and have come out on top. For some reason, the zugzug brain thinks THIS is the time for Blizzard to intervene. It’s not going to happen. Your side needs to learn to adapt, just as alliance did.

Keep making these whining posts, I literally want to inject it into my veins. I can’t get enough.

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Hahahahaha, you can’t honestly think that?

If instanced pvp is supposed to be fair, why are premades vs pugs a thing in WSG/AB? Why is AV’s terrain so one sidedly in favour of Horde? Why can Horde reach the Alliance side of the Field at the same time the Alliance do? Why are racials so overwhelmingly in Horde’s favour?

Instanced pvp isn’t meant to be fair, no pvp is, it’s designed to be heavily Horde biased because the devs are mostly horde- the only thing it does is cap numbers, and if it didn’t you’d be smugly claiming 50v10 WSG was fine because you’d have the advantage.

There is no reason to treat you like a worthy adversary that deserves respect after phase 2, and what exactly do you want? Alliance all banned? So you can have 10 hour queues?

Have you ever heard of ‘do unto others’? Because Alliance know what Horde do when they have the advantage- so if there’s any advantage we can get we’re not going to treat you differently.

All this fake crap from Horde now about how bad you feel for casuals when casuals were the ones you were screaming ‘reroll or quit’ like mongoloids at for months is some of the most pathetic attempts at fake sympathy I’ve ever seen. We see through you, we know the type of people you are.

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The gross unfairness is kind of hard to stomach.

I’m Rank 12 right now and after I finish my grind I will likely put Classic down just because this is leaving such a bad taste in my mouth.

I’ll get my gear and finish my grind because I committed but wow this is just disgusting to witness. Mass abuse of the Q system, bugged pulling of the boss, it just ruins all spirit of fairness and competition from the game.

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You can’t have this argument and assume that the P2 plague doesn’t still exist in potentiality. Take away battlegrounds and the bloodthirsty mob goes right back at it again, and the Alliance are completely waylaid from playing the game. Your plight in P2.5=Our plight in P2. Cheers.

This is what I’ve been saying lmao.

The level of mental gymnastics involved in justifying this is disgusting.

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They start 15v40 because of Q dodgers on your own faction lmao! This problem hurts EVERYONE who isn’t in their premades, including other Alliance!

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Well said, anyone disagreeing is obviously only concerned with their own self interests.

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Aww, the spirit of fairness and competition, I know Horde are so dedicated to making sure that’s their priority that this is sad to see. :confounded:

You know what’s disgusting and unfair? Seeing Horde raids sitting in every zone stomping people as they try to quest or use FPs. Camping people for hours, spamming ‘reroll or quit’ in every thread with solutions on how to fix imbalance.

Horde don’t care about the fairness of the game- you care about the game being biased in your favour, and are silent or gloating when it is and complaining when it isn’t.

Horde destroyed the spirit of competition- we’re not giving it back, you think we’ll just take and not give back? No, that’s not how it works- Horde are getting your karmic justice, and if it really sucks so much maybe you’ll learn from it.

Bye Felicia.

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You say it’s cheating because alliance are doing something horde can’t? They CAN-its the simple fact that you’re ques are a LOT longer. If the balance was even, then it would be A LOT easier to que into the same BG. It has nothing to do with cheating or exploiting…it quite literally is using the tools that are given to us.

Get a load of this guy. He thinks 10 level 60s hanging up on a level 48 trying to quest in Searing Gorge is “fair”

BGs are fair. You’re put against people who are just as geared and skilled as you are. If you wanna win, git gud. Or keep ganking level 50s while deluding yourselves that you’re actually good at something.

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The horde can’t realistically queue as a premade.

Alliance premades drop queue every time they don’t all get into the same battleground. I don’t know exactly how often they typically do this for each game, but I’m guessing quite a lot because of the number of empty AV’s I land in.

This works for the alliance because queues are instant - drop out and you can immediately get into another AV. Now imagine trying to do that with a half hour queue between every attempt…

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You wanna reread what i wrote idiot?

You said BGs are supposed to be fair. They are fair. You lose because the other team is better. Now go back to farming welfare honor in Searing Gorge.

Rofl ok troll, yeah, the alliance can premade while horde cant and they can terrain exploit the marshals whereas the horde have to actually fight them, but sure alliance just win because they are "better "

You’re garbage

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There’s an ingame voice chat. Horde can talk to each other just like the alliance can via discord. There’s no difference. Horde can also use an exploit to pull Van without his Marshals.

Coming from a shammy that likely uses the double crit ele mastery bug to delete players, a clear exploit- this is funny.

Why don’t you git gud, quit or reroll if you don’t like it? Not our fault you need to l2p.

Bro elemental mastery is garbage, I’ve always been and will always be a nature’s swiftness user

Whats the matter? Dont have an argument other than that strawman?

Cool story bro, QQ more about getting wrecked in pvp since you don’t know how to kite or sync a queue. :smirk:

Big difference between pre formed groups and just randomly getting whoever is in your bg into voice chat

Also the solo pull vaan exploit can only be attempted ONE time, and 9 times out of 10 some random fcks it up because we cant premade like alliance