this all day everyday horde wins av games i’ve won many 1-2 this week and won 5 last week before alliance has completely concaved on itself
Well…you could move our cave further south. I think the outcome will be the same. In the end, it comes down to PvP clashes. overall…alliance do slightly poorer than the horde at this.
slightly…
overall…
Not every alliance player
Not always
So to shorten my post.
Won’t matter, Alliance still will lose.
Wait, hold up. Are you suggesting that it is more easily recapped because a larger group of horde could kill a smaller group of alliance?
Same map as the final year or more of vanilla.
So then doesn’t explain 99% win rate.
Hah at you thinking Horde is actually more skilled than alliance. If horde had no shamans and alliance had no paladins and map was even and horde didnt exploit every glitch in the map we would win half the time as intended. If anything everytime its an even fight alliance shi%s on horde. They just respawn closer and reinforce faster because of it. It gets old and alliance just says we can lose this and get in another game in 20 seconds and goes afk in the cave.
While that’s obviously true, My point is that horde could easily attrition or zerg a smaller group of alliance trying to cap FWGY because they respawn 20 at a time, much closer than the alliance at IBGY. The dominance of the horde cave as a forward spawn is really good. You’re right, We might need 15 or 20 there, but how would we hold IBGY while it flips?
No
No you wouldn’t. And Paladins are an advantage in pvp, especially organized.
While WHAT flips? If you have SFGY (soloable), and you tag IBGY, and a total of 2 alliance run and easily cap FW, why do you imagine you need to linger at IB?
Are you just saying that you should not cap things because the enemy may attempt to cap them back?
No. Cave position gets you to balinda, sfgy and shgy before us or at the same time which is ridiculous. Also Cave is behind TP, which gives you control over tp, ibgy and ibt.
Way to completely miss the point of the very thing you quoted. All that moving the cave back would do is make the first clash (unless you snuck around west of SF) in the FOS, where you would not have benefit of tower and NPC support.
Um, what’s your point? Your cave is behind everything prior to middle of FOS. 
And if they win, their reward is to fight another one under a Horde tower next to a Horde GY. At best. If H wins their reward is… better.
If you disagree you could always try to get your team to stand around in the cave for 30s at match start, so you’d have the joys of this advantage.
This gave me a good chuckle.
Whenever we do this, 30 Horde come to recap it. 30.
And while 3/4 of their team is doing that, your team is?
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2 people can easily tag FWGY but capturing it is something completely different. IF alliance don’t have IBGY captured (as well as IBT and TP) assaulting FWGY would be a big mistake. Horde can choose to assault either objective and the objective with the least resistance will always be zerged down first, that’s just how mob mentality and movement works. So not having IBGY completely captured would just result in horde retaking it then turning around and attrition the larger alliance force at FWGY.
Horde can get to SF GY first and cap by the time Ally arrive, and it’s the first contested GY.
That alone suggests an imbalance in starting locations for the 2 opposing teams.
I think we can all see where this leads.
Horde remain OP -> Alliance stops playing -> Horde gets no honor -> Honor system collapses.
The current bad racial balance and diversity benefits no one.
It’s time for a racial pass, throw some class-specific racials for all classes too while you’re at it.
Accurate. Ive stopped PvPing and on my last 6 days of gametime. I wont be renewing.
Enjoy your queues horde!