Sorry "Ion Hazzikostas"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hnewman/2018/11/07/blizzard-working-to-balance-warcrafts-alliance-and-horde-players-in-war-mode-raiding/amp/
My warrior was 375 item lvl 2 weeks ago(got tired of playing 120) and has a 44% winrate in AV BUT I know for a fact I afked out of at least 8 games because who really wants to sit in a 50 minute AV guaranteed loss so that brings my AV winrate down to 23%.
Btw most of the AV games we won were close matches and most the losses were blowouts. The maps setup in a way that gives Horde a natural chokepoint at IBGY to easily cut Alliance off.
What part of that is "better for Alliance" Ion? Do you even play the game?
This is not just me noting this, many other Alliance players are fed up with bgs, AV in particular and thats why the queues are getting longer for Horde.
Trust me the Alliance in these AVs were not having fun and this is the fault of blizzard for not balancing Racials/AV map and then pretending that everythings balanced when its not.
How out of touch with the game do you have to be to make these claims?
He probably thinks Mythic raiding is even too when its 90% Horde guilds now. Actually unbelievable and thats why many Alliance have unsubbed and the games now 55%+ and rising Horde and only 45% Alliance
If winrates are mostly even, then how come this hunter’s firsthand experiences don’t prove it??
The public demands answers, Blizz.
Also, if car accidents are real, how come I’ve never been in one??
The public demands answers, Blizz.
Also, if car accidents are real, how come I’ve never been in one??
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11/09/2018 01:28 PMPosted by ErelirIf winrates are mostly even, then how come this hunter’s firsthand experiences don’t prove it??
The public demands answers, Blizz.
Also, if car accidents are real, how come I’ve never been in one??
Yea man its totally just me and not the countless other Alliance I saw in AV or on forums stating the same thing. Or even the Horde players stating how high their AV winrates are.
Good one little guy, got any other response besides pretending thousands of people are making up their experiences in AV?
You’re complaining about a 44% winrate? And no can’t count Bgs you left since you don’t know the outcome.
Just post in the existing thread, pal. Your fresh new take on this topic isn’t interesting enough to warrant a new one.
I’ve already spent about as much cognitive effort as I’m willing to on the subject.
Edit: Also, I have to ask: Why did you put quotation marks around Ion’s name? Do you think that’s an alias or something?
I’ve already spent about as much cognitive effort as I’m willing to on the subject.
Edit: Also, I have to ask: Why did you put quotation marks around Ion’s name? Do you think that’s an alias or something?
11/09/2018 01:36 PMPosted by JugajrYou’re complaining about a 44% winrate? And no can’t count Bgs you left since you don’t know the outcome.
Uh yea you can. Its called being down by 200+ reinforcements being pushed back into base, games over at that point because you have no gy to rez at besides spawn. Stop being obtuse jugs.
So no, I'm actually complaining about a 23% winrate when I'm much better geared and a much better player than you, thats simply unacceptable. Period.
If things were as even as you claimed 55%+ of 120s wouldn't be Horde. Neither would the majority of top end pvpers and 90% of Mythic raiding guilds.
Once again its players like you and devs ignoring this problem who are actually killing the game because once it turns into a one faction game where 65+% of the players are Horde people are ultimately going to unsub because thats not fun and its also a complete lie from the "balance" factions that were promised.
I was right about this issue years ago when Horde were receiving better racials by biased Devs and the problem has only snowballed as a i predicted while Horde fangirls like you continue to act like climate change deniers.
Yea I knew what Ion was saying was BS the moment I saw that other thread. I would take the claim that "everything's fine in AV, Alliance win just as much as the Horde" with a grain of salt... it just doesn't "add up" with the experiences shared by so many Ally players regarding AV specifically.
The dead giveaway was the part where he said something about "Alliance does a bit better in AV and Isle of Conquest"... just LOL, right away I KNEW something didn't sound right as soon as I read that tidbit.
Most of the time on my Alliance toon when AV pops, it's a loss.
Most of the time on my Horde toon when AV pops, it's a win.
Not sure why people are in denial about ^ this/white-knighting, they are basically calling their fellow Alliance players liars. What's interesting is that Ion comes from a lawyer background supposedly, and lying/lawyer-speak is pretty much second nature to people in that profession. So you also have to take that into consideration.
The dead giveaway was the part where he said something about "Alliance does a bit better in AV and Isle of Conquest"... just LOL, right away I KNEW something didn't sound right as soon as I read that tidbit.
Most of the time on my Alliance toon when AV pops, it's a loss.
Most of the time on my Horde toon when AV pops, it's a win.
Not sure why people are in denial about ^ this/white-knighting, they are basically calling their fellow Alliance players liars. What's interesting is that Ion comes from a lawyer background supposedly, and lying/lawyer-speak is pretty much second nature to people in that profession. So you also have to take that into consideration.
You do realize the only entrance into your base is the thinnest, and longest ( lol ) choke point in the BG right? Did i also mention it has a 60 foot drop on the sides? While the horde base has like 6 entrances you can cheese and sneak into that haven't been fixed since this bg came out.
But its ok because i wont even mention the part where alliance can get to our base faster, and how you can be protected from the archers inside in the horde tower huts for a quick e-z cap. Yet horde are open to every archer in the bunker making you have to kill them all first = much slower caps. And how you can pile 10 people into the 5 yard wide tower hut and be invincible while you can easily get people out of the bunkers.
aaaaand * gasps for breath*
ill spare you the list. Horde bias tho amiright. Alliance has its fair share of advantages in AV. More than horde in fact. Just gotta learn to use them
But its ok because i wont even mention the part where alliance can get to our base faster, and how you can be protected from the archers inside in the horde tower huts for a quick e-z cap. Yet horde are open to every archer in the bunker making you have to kill them all first = much slower caps. And how you can pile 10 people into the 5 yard wide tower hut and be invincible while you can easily get people out of the bunkers.
aaaaand * gasps for breath*
ill spare you the list. Horde bias tho amiright. Alliance has its fair share of advantages in AV. More than horde in fact. Just gotta learn to use them
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So just quit. You have been complaining for years yet throwing blizz money. If anyone is “killing the game” would be you. I’m fine with alliance random reg Bgs so I’ll keep giving them money.11/09/2018 01:41 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou11/09/2018 01:36 PMPosted by JugajrYou’re complaining about a 44% winrate? And no can’t count Bgs you left since you don’t know the outcome.
Uh yea you can. Its called being down by 200+ reinforcements being pushed back into base, games over at that point because you have no gy to rez at besides spawn. Stop being obtuse jugs.
So no, I'm actually complaining about a 23% winrate when I'm much better geared and a much better player than you, thats simply unacceptable. Period.
If things were as even as you claimed 55%+ of 120s wouldn't be Horde. Neither would the majority of top end pvpers and 90% of Mythic raiding guilds.
Once again its players like you and devs ignoring this problem who are actually killing the game because once it turns into a one faction game where 65+% of the players are Horde people are ultimately going to unsub because thats not fun and its also a complete lie from the "balance" factions that were promised.
I was right about this issue years ago when Horde were receiving better racials by biased Devs and the problem has only snowballed as a i predicted while Horde fangirls like you continue to act like climate change deniers.
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11/09/2018 01:28 PMPosted by ErelirAlso, if car accidents are real, how come I’ve never been in one??
Because you drive a Hummer!
OP, play times are a huge factor as well.
11/09/2018 01:39 PMPosted by ErelirJust post in the existing thread, pal. Your fresh new take on this topic isn’t interesting enough to warrant a new one.
I’ve already spent about as much cognitive effort as I’m willing to on the subject.
Edit: Also, I have to ask: Why did you put quotation marks around Ion’s name? Do you think that’s an alias or something?
I just looked at your armory, you are 350 item lvl and have never broken 1550 in either Arena or RBGs.
I just want to point out these are the people disagreeing with me when I have far more pvp knowledge and understanding than them.
Maybe you should use your "cognitive effort" to break 1550 and actually learn about PVP before you try to tell me my experiences and thousands of other Alliance players in AV are wrong.
11/09/2018 01:41 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou11/09/2018 01:36 PMPosted by JugajrYou’re complaining about a 44% winrate? And no can’t count Bgs you left since you don’t know the outcome.
Uh yea you can. Its called being down by 200+ reinforcements being pushed back into base, games over at that point because you have no gy to rez at besides spawn. Stop being obtuse jugs.
I'm joining those in-progress games.
I can confirm that the Alliance did end up losing.
11/09/2018 01:45 PMPosted by JugajrSo just quit. You have been complaining for years yet throwing blizz money. If anyone is “killing the game” would be you. I’m fine with alliance random reg Bgs so I’ll keep giving them money.11/09/2018 01:41 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou...
Uh yea you can. Its called being down by 200+ reinforcements being pushed back into base, games over at that point because you have no gy to rez at besides spawn. Stop being obtuse jugs.
So no, I'm actually complaining about a 23% winrate when I'm much better geared and a much better player than you, thats simply unacceptable. Period.
If things were as even as you claimed 55%+ of 120s wouldn't be Horde. Neither would the majority of top end pvpers and 90% of Mythic raiding guilds.
Once again its players like you and devs ignoring this problem who are actually killing the game because once it turns into a one faction game where 65+% of the players are Horde people are ultimately going to unsub because thats not fun and its also a complete lie from the "balance" factions that were promised.
I was right about this issue years ago when Horde were receiving better racials by biased Devs and the problem has only snowballed as a i predicted while Horde fangirls like you continue to act like climate change deniers.
Well thanks for finally admitting I'm right. I'd like to see you tell the Alliance players stuck in spawn down 300 reinforcements and also likely down players that the games not over yet though. I guess if they simply believed its "not over" theyd magically overcome a map disadvantage, racial disadvantage, and numerical player disadvantage right Jugs?
I would if I ever got av. I just get IOC so I queue reg randoms where alliance win plenty.11/09/2018 01:53 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou11/09/2018 01:45 PMPosted by Jugajr...So just quit. You have been complaining for years yet throwing blizz money. If anyone is “killing the game” would be you. I’m fine with alliance random reg Bgs so I’ll keep giving them money.
Well thanks for finally admitting I'm right. I'd like to see you tell the Alliance players stuck in spawn down 300 reinforcements and also likely down players that the games not over yet though. I guess if they simply believed its "not over" theyd magically overcome a map disadvantage, racial disadvantage, and numerical player disadvantage right Jugs?
11/09/2018 01:49 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou11/09/2018 01:39 PMPosted by ErelirJust post in the existing thread, pal. Your fresh new take on this topic isn’t interesting enough to warrant a new one.
I’ve already spent about as much cognitive effort as I’m willing to on the subject.
Edit: Also, I have to ask: Why did you put quotation marks around Ion’s name? Do you think that’s an alias or something?
I just looked at your armory, you are 350 item lvl and have never broken 1550 in either Arena or RBGs.
I just want to point out these are the people disagreeing with me when I have far more pvp knowledge and understanding than them.
Maybe you should use your "cognitive effort" to break 1550 and actually learn about PVP before you try to tell me my experiences and thousands of other Alliance players in AV are wrong.
Trying to use peoples IL's and armory in an argument against them is pretty dumb and incredibly moot when you're posting on a level 29 hunter
And his biggest accomplishment was I believe 2011.11/09/2018 01:58 PMPosted by Gehlmar11/09/2018 01:49 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou...
I just looked at your armory, you are 350 item lvl and have never broken 1550 in either Arena or RBGs.
I just want to point out these are the people disagreeing with me when I have far more pvp knowledge and understanding than them.
Maybe you should use your "cognitive effort" to break 1550 and actually learn about PVP before you try to tell me my experiences and thousands of other Alliance players in AV are wrong.
Trying to use peoples IL's and armory in an argument against them is pretty dumb and incredibly moot when you're posting on a level 29 hunter
11/09/2018 01:45 PMPosted by GehlmarYou do realize the only entrance into your base is the thinnest, and longest ( lol ) choke point in the BG right? Did i also mention it has a 60 foot drop on the sides? While the horde base has like 6 entrances you can cheese and sneak into that haven't been fixed since this bg came out.
Wrong. The entrance to the Frostwolf keep is much thinner.
As for the ways around, (1) they were closed off, and (2) if you do manage to drop into the ledge outside the wall, from say west Frostwolf tower, there's now an invisible wall that keeps you from going in by the waterfall gate. Blizzard has worked hard to close off the legitimate entrances to Frostwolf keep while leaving the ones to Dun Baldar open.
This reminds me of all the years where horde lost the 40 mans and cried of alliance advantage. Really it was a get good situation as much back then as it is now.
Yea I knew what Ion was saying was BS the moment I saw that other thread. I would take the claim that "everything's fine in AV, Alliance win just as much as the Horde" with a grain of salt... it just doesn't "add up" with the experiences shared by so many Ally players regarding AV specifically.
The dead giveaway was the part where he said something about "Alliance does a bit better in AV and Isle of Conquest"... just LOL, right away I KNEW something didn't sound right as soon as I read that tidbit.
Most of the time on my Alliance toon when AV pops, it's a loss.
Most of the time on my Horde toon when AV pops, it's a win.
Not sure why people are in denial about ^ this/white-knighting, they are basically calling their fellow Alliance players liars. What's interesting is that Ion comes from a lawyer background supposedly, and lying/lawyer-speak is pretty much second nature to people in that profession. So you also have to take that into consideration.
Good points here. Trusting a lawyer to tell you the honest truth and not use lawyer speak is silly.
I'm glad you caught that about Jugs too. Heres the thing, shes not a fellow Alliance player shes actually a Horde fangirl. Thats her Alliance alt, she admitted her Horde character is higher item lvl as i figured.
Shes actually mained Horde for years and been one of the most outspoked fangirls of Horde and AGAINST Alliance racials ever being buffed to even things out with Horde.
My guess is it stems from her being a lower skilled player so she needs the advantage for pvp she does on Horde. Either way its incredibly dishonest for her to post on an Alliance alt then time and time again argue that Alliance racials don't need to be changed when 90% of Mythic guilds are Horde or Horde winning 60+% of bgs and having 55+% of the playerbase.
Those statistics show a serious imbalance yet she has the gall to post on an alliance alt over and over claiming otherwise? Shes a serious disinformation troll, don't take anything she says seriously.
11/09/2018 01:49 PMPosted by Igyfarmyou11/09/2018 01:39 PMPosted by ErelirJust post in the existing thread, pal. Your fresh new take on this topic isn’t interesting enough to warrant a new one.
I’ve already spent about as much cognitive effort as I’m willing to on the subject.
Edit: Also, I have to ask: Why did you put quotation marks around Ion’s name? Do you think that’s an alias or something?
I just looked at your armory, you are 350 item lvl and have never broken 1550 in either Arena or RBGs.
I just want to point out these are the people disagreeing with me when I have far more pvp knowledge and understanding than them.
Maybe you should use your "cognitive effort" to break 1550 and actually learn about PVP before you try to tell me my experiences and thousands of other Alliance players in AV are wrong.
Oh boy, it’s come to this.
1. Why do I need to participate in rated content to comment on unrated BG win statistics? Do I need loremaster to talk about pet battles too?
2. Why would you criticize someone’s credentials.. on an alt? Are you trying to insulate yourself from similar criticism?
3. If you want to call from authority, I can do the same. Ion, an individual who actually developes the video game we’re talking about right now, probably knows more than you do about it.