Av is dominated by av alliance premades led in discord

My horde and alliance queues are pretty much the same for AB, which is the only one I ever run. I never bother with AV because allies always lose it and horde have two hour queues lol

Alliance have been doing better as of late - especially on the holiday. I win like 1 in 4/5 on average outside of the holiday and usually hang around the .500 mark if not a litte more on the AV holiday. Youre also going to spend a lot of queues getting dumped into no win situations but again, as a rogue, my fav class, its not hard to make AV fun for yourself even if its just one token. Some gold farming opportunies as well :open_mouth:

The queues make up for all the bad where I am concerned. Plus, beating the horde in an alliance pug feels amazing. Most games are tough wins and you really feel like you earned it.

I feel like in AB I win more than I donā€™t maybe 60% of the time solo que regardless of faction. Feels fairly even but each side has its advantages, and when I am playing Alliance I preference not seeing priests or shaman, and when playing Horde I preference not seeing Holy paladin or human anythingā€¦ Perception is so OP, they make me pre-vanish, it annoys me.

Iā€™m not sure exactly how they do it but I imagine since thereā€™s only a couple AVs going at any given time, 15-30 Alliance queueing simultaneously on a countdown will instantly open a new game. This would work since Horde are always waiting to enter a game. So as long as thereā€™s 30-40 Horde in a queue, new games can be forced open with premades in discord.

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Blizz enforced a minimum 3 min queue or wait for alliance so it would be harder for them to organize premades. Its unfortunate but we couldnt be trusted with a more open system.

Or keep it how it was in Vannila??

You can overwhelm that system easily with the small number of BGā€™s in action. This is why its possible without any sort of trickery.

Irony is this would not be a problem if the map was so imbalanced, there would likely be a lot more players involved and so more games in progress making worlds harder to get a group que goin.

Hey man Ive been lobbying for Blizz to bring back AV premades. At least let 20 queue. Something.

Thatā€™s the biggest issue.

Fix small stuff in AV, remove pre-mades which all happens much later, so youā€™re making changes that eventually happen.

Then 1 side has a 90% win rate but donā€™t change the cave rezā€¦ok Blizzā€¦

The boom cycle for pvp has come and gone. My hope is they allow it again when TBC drops. Be nice if it was next weekā€¦but thats probably not happening.

Will be announced in Feb at Blizzcon.

Well its ironic how disorganized horde players are, at times theyā€™d rather spend 20-30mins in a wsg just killing people over trying to actually win the game

I meant allowing premades in AV. People are premading anyway.

In tbc it was even easier, they actually made an addon for it.

Ques you all up with 1 button and shows who got into the right games.

well for all you horde players out there here area few tip to help you win:

use invisibility potions to sneak past the alliance players
make a kneel macro to fool alliance into thinking you placed a hunters trap on the ground.
Send one hunter to the alliance cave to stall them
set up a ā€œmeat grinderā€ at the alliance cave to kill them all
rename your wolf riders to ram team 7, they automatically win the game for you.

Did I miss anything?

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These sound so familiar!!

You forgot ā€œGIT GUDā€

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You forgot they need to find the right place to die. Other than that, I think you covered it.

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imagine having to cheat to win a battleground. could have posted this back in phase 2 also by the way. oh the daysā€¦7 min losses to alliance 100% of the time.
i donā€™t play AV anymore anyway but iā€™ve heard about this cheating occurring. interestlyā€¦is anyone discussing how magically the map is fine and alliance are winning?

There should absolutely be 40 man premade queues, and they should be forced to play against other premades.

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Imagine have a 30 second head start and claim the other team is cheating.

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