Ah yes a grave dishonor.
1 Like
I should make tshirts of the name I made up.
Iām going to buy my kids ram costumes for Halloween and make them be Ram Team 7.
2 Likes
Wow its amazing that you can fail at disproving 1 thing in a long list and think you have validity.
Sure we can kinda flank when we have SPGY softcapped but by then Horde are in our base with AS softcapped and can use the bridge against us.
So thanks for showing you know nothing, care to address any of the other problems and be shown how wrong you are on those too?
I mean like the fact that there is a massive terrain advantage for Horde at SPGY which doesnāt exist at IBGY for alliance?
or the fact that all of the Horde map objective(wolves/lok/wing commanders) are easily secured by horde once they have SH and directly help with attacking SPGY, where as the alliance basically cannot summon them.
Or how about how if alliance lose there first GY they basically lose the game, yet if horde lose there first GY they can easily retake it?
OR how about the fact that horde get a free softcap of SF?
but please just because you claim there are advantages that we are not using does not mean they actually exist. PLEASE demonstrate these advantages because EVERY SINGLE time you mention something it is UNBELIEVABLY easy to show how it is not actually an advantage and that you do not know ANYTHING about AV.
any perceived alliance advantages are just peanuts to the horde advantages and that is why the map is the cause of the winrate.
How I would love one of these map deniers to actually give some true valid arguments it would be such a breath of fresh air, sadly I fear they are incapable of doing so.
If I did a couple I have zero memory of it, that is how little they mean.
Flex on, brave sir flex.
And yet there is not a single thread that has been posted by you lot about that. Hell, I even made a graphic to itās effect.
Here it is again. No doubt this subject will remain buried on threads like this so you do not have to actually back them up in a meaningful way.
https://imgur.com/rsUBCzI
Fix the issue thatās irrelevant, didnāt they just āfixā other issues?
Sure made us win more!
And the person who said there was not a single thread about this even posted in it.
3 Likes
It figures. Heās clueless bro.
Hahahahaha. What a special snow flake.
Theyāre trolls, all theyāre doing is keeping people talking. Put them on perma-ignore and your time here will be much better.
Somehow horde have the GY softcapped at the same time your rezing at it, got itā¦
You do understand if you Rez at air station you can go around the horde by jumping off a few small cliffs and through the valley to go behind the horde as they try to push the bridgeā¦
You know, where the backdoor used to be but is now fixed?
And if horde have SPGY soft capped you can die in a position on/across the bridge toward SPGY to Rez at the cave and be behind the horde?
I mean you were all complaining how when horde have SPGY soft capped you Rez at the cave, and now you donāt Rez at the cave unless ASGY is capped somehow???
Your changing your story to fit your narrative.
Iāve explained how when horde have SPGY your position of death defines which GY/cave you Rez at, and you can use that to flank the horde. Yet somehow now that only works if the alliance freely give ASGY somehow nowā¦
Your showing your agenda by constantly changing your story, just thought you should know that.
Also to Graff, it is in fact, not trolling to have a different opinion/viewpoint. If that was the case, every single one of us would have been banned from excessive spam because we all have different opinions on different subjects, Including you.
My story is fine, you just cannot read.
If we do not have SPGY softcapped we spawn at SP and there is no flank available because there is only one exit after a walk through a narrow pass that has multiple locations where the horde can sit on high ground and attack/aoe down.
If SPGY is softcapped we start rezzing at the cave even if AS is held, however as soon as SPGY flips the horde typically have free access to DB because the alliance are now spawning in the wrong direction and the Horde can use the bridge to defend the alliance from the cave from defending any of AS or the 2 bunkers which horde now can access with minimal defense because you know horde spawn in the wrong direction.
So I guess if Alliance give up SPGY to have half the team fighting on the bridge and the other half fighting on the flag they might be able to hold for a long while, but they still will have to deal with aerial bombardments and eventually Lok.
This is not something that will happen at IBGY.
Alliance also only have 1 place they can attack at that point which is SH which is where all the horde are currently spawning at and has a nice choke they can defend with ample opportunity to see anyone coming from a ways away.
Please learn to read. I did not change my story, it just used multiple examples explaining various scenarios. Sorry some things require complex thinking like handling a couple different possibilities at once.
2 Likes
Are you suggesting that spawning at aid station when you die at SF, even when you hold SHā¦ is irrelevant?
Once again lumped in with other perceived issues, for a total of 7 whole posts, until your little arena hero Shrinkydink posted this morning in it.
So you found a single thread with 7 posts, you have the graphic I made and my support to fix the issue. What are you going to do with it now?
Apparently shrinkydink arena hero views it as irrelevant.
Ofc itās irrelevant, itās not why we are losing.
Even if we some how keep SFGY, we still need to take IBGY, and we all know what happens then.
Not that hard to figure out.
Did they other changes they just did fix the issue of why we lose???
Itās a lot harder to fix players intentionally losing than it is to change the map.
The issue isnāt the map, itās the players.
Also, you donāt have to take IBGY.
The 7 minute alliance races didnāt do it.
They went to the last boss and killed it. The alliance were treating AV as a pve race, and still do. Horde stopped treating it as a pve race and started playing it as a war scale PvP BG.
I wonder why alliance arenāt winning now that the horde have removed the pve race meta and alliance are still trying to play it as a pve mapā¦
Imagine still thinking itās not the map.
Then give an excuse as we didnāt cap IBGy when we won in 7 minutes, man youāre smart.
Why would we cap it if both sides didnāt play defense.
Your arguments are becoming really really stupid at this point.
2 Likes
If 40 horde are attacking aid station GY and trying to cross the bridge, that is the strongest choke point in the game, sending an offensive group to kill the last boss and having enough people defending is very possible. Or you can cap everything in the south to make horde panic, exc.
Iām sorry you canāt seem to understand basic strategy. Your still trying to play AV as a pve rep farm simulator so it must be hard to get your head around the fact that AV is in fact a PVP BG, not a pve rep farm simulator.
Still lying about thisā¦ bridge is no where close to the strongest choke.
that would be IBGY by a large margin.
but you are the one who thinks skipping IBGY is valid when horde are playing defenseā¦
man you really are a troll.
2 Likes
You say stuff like this, which would be a pve race.
Then you tell us āwe keep playing like itās a pve raceā.
How do you want us to play?? You keep contradicting yourself with these imaginary points you keep pretending are good.
We either take graveyards or we donāt.
Do horde skip all graveyards and rush Aid station??
No they donāt because they WOULDNT BE ABLE TO REZ UP NORTH.
Your suggestions are dumb as are your strategies.
You keep flip floping on everything. We need a Rez point just like horde do, which is why they LEAP FROG EVERY GRAVEYARD.
Yet alliance strategy has to be so unclear that you expect us to skip graveyards, then when we canāt because of the cave Rez we are doing something wrong, then accuse us of trying to get a graveyard and say to skip it, then say we are treating it like a pve race.
I forget Iām arguing with a 1500 rated player.
1 Like
*a bad 1500 rated player.
I played as a complete meme team, feral + boomkin in twos in TBC just because we could have a cool team name and we broke 1500.
2 Likes
Jesus dude, being booted back to the furthest GY from the middle of the map when you hold one closer is not a factor in losing?
OK, now you are being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative.
Perhaps if you were not cheerleading the practice of not trying, not queueing, rolling over the moment horde gets to SH, weād know as much. Perhaps if you lot downloaded the ptr and tested it, giving input while they were making changes, this might be able to be determined. How in the bloody heck do you imagine they will be able to determine if changes help to alleviate perceived issues, if you are not willing to drop the defeatist clownishness for a while?
1 Like