AV Cave Rez situation

Again with the bizarre flex.

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Care to actually give any evidence for any of your claims? Or are you only capable of making false claims and acting all offended when people call you on your asinine claims?

I know what it was ā€œdesignedā€ to doā€¦

Is it still a box??

You linked your retail toon, you may say arenas are bad but you still did themā€¦very poorly I might add, but you did them.

As for the pally heā€™s hiding in an alt to cover up everything he actually can do in game.

I mean atleast you post on a 60 so we can see your trash logs and your retail toon for his trash arena rating.

Isnā€™t it funny all these PvP horde pros are ACTUALLY really really bad at PvP and pve.

Hey atleast they win AV!

Yes and no, it was designed to be more pve oriented than the other two BGā€™s but it was also designed to still be a BG. Which includes things like a win condition and a match making system and actually you know be a selfcontained zone not part of the open world etcā€¦

Iā€™m going to point out ONE of the things wrong, and I donā€™t have time to list everything.

Defending players have plenty of flanking options at SPGY.

You can go down the canyon to attack horde from behind, you can run back toward your cave to get on the high ground, you can bottle neck the horde into the pass by having the high ground as they attack.

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That isnā€™t the hordes fault that you donā€™t know how to use what you have.

You do realize arena is a very different type of game play than AV right?

Contrary to your beliefs, alliance are not choked into their base at the bridge.

Itā€™s entering the base that the choke point is the only option, leaving is easy. You can hold off 40 horde with 20 alliance when done right, and the alliance can leave their base to go on offense at any time, they donā€™t have to cross the bridge to do so.

Fixed it for you.

AV is a war scale BG.

Alliance play it as a pve rep farm simulator while horde play it as a PvP war scale BG.

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I wonder why the alliance are losing?..

Interesting since they get maybe 300 rep a game now.

PvP is PvP. If you couldnā€™t hit 1550 in arena I doubt youā€™re good at any form of PvP, which is exactly what the achievements reflect.

Saying well this is a BG and not arena is irrelevant. Your skills are lacking in arena which translates to all PvP.

To some extent I agree with this. If we were talking AB, I definitely agree with this. The actual pvp skills matter less in AV from a 1v1 / 3v3 standpoint. 5s is where it gets applicable though. Overall though, this one is really more a matter of whether you use the correct charge / freeze / CC / heal in the correct spot to help overcome a large team fight. Less directly applicable pvp skill imo.

You do realize if weā€™re on top spinning the flag and die we rez at AS right? Tell me a better position to spin SFGY since you seem to think alliance should never die in a position that sends them to AS.

Or just stop defending bad design.

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There you go again comparing arenas to a large scale war BG.

5v5 is VASTLY different than 40v40.

But that just doesnā€™t fit your narrative now does it?

I did serious PvP in BC. After that I was far more casual, usually just playing enough to help friends get their weekly cap on alts. My brother got the original account so I donā€™t have that data on my armory profile.

Lastly even if I had recent high ratings in PvP, the retail and classic are effectively 2 very different games because of how much retail has changed from classic over the course of all the expansions.

If I had high PvP ratings from retail you would be claiming Iā€™m a retail player and donā€™t understand classic.

I stopped caring about hardcore retail PvP rating when things got homogenized in WoTLK, I still enjoyed the game at the time, but I was more so there to enjoy the ride, no longer doing a deep dive I to the top plays. And again, my brother got the original account, so trying to armory shame me is laughable at best.

So basically if alliance do a whole load of junk in a pug that horde donā€™t have to do.

My point is if youā€™re a 1500 rated player letā€™s be honest youā€™re not good at PvP.

It doesnā€™t matter if itā€™s in a BG,open world or arena. You lack a serious amount of PvP skill if you win 300 arena games and still canā€™t hit 1550.

All skill for PvP translate to everything.

If I see a warrior or rogue in open world I counter spell them immediately, then slay them.

Stuff like that will translate to AV, Im fully aware of my surroundings, I can CS a heal without even being on that target. I can ice block coils from just visuals of it. All of this would help me in ANY PvP situation.

They canā€™t say the same because they arenā€™t good at PvP or pve for that matter. Thatā€™s the point.

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Read above.

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Sadly in this thread other horde would have been seriousā€¦

I definitely get you LOL. I was mainly saying that he didnā€™t properly attribute the Ram advantage to Ram Team 7. They have a name!

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Because I was on a different team every week helping friends get their alts their weekly cap?

I didnā€™t try for PvP ratings after TBC. I helped friends but I lost interest after classes got homogenized in wrath, on top of how OP DKs were for the first half of wrath it just made me lose interest.

I might aim for some rating in TBC classic again, but I got my fill of arenas back in TBC.

Keep armory shaming as if it means anything though.