It has but horde have short queues again, short games and are typically getting around the same or more honor than alliance even when they lose and alliance have stopped premading.
Horde can certainly go back to playing scorched earth but now they’ve seen where that ends up at.
So you want to complain about the horde cave inside a vacuum and ignore comparable aspects of what the alliance have. Got it. Your not being bais at all…
somebody call the bias police please, red is offended again.
complain and discuss are not the same things. I talk about the horde cave and how it makes taking IBGY difficult because I have experience with it in hundreds of games.
I have NEVER heard anyone complain about how strong the alliance cave is, quite the opposite I have seen horde capture SPGY in every game when they had 99% win rates despite how “powerful” the alliance cave is.
I guess you can continue to be offended that I don’t agree with your opinion of the alliance cave.
What percentage of alliance was actually playing by that time out of the 40?
Ya let’s ignore the lose fast meta most alliance had after the druids got fixed.
Your trying to misrepresent the history of classic av now. You sure your not drinkblinks clone?
Also, not offended, simply correcting your misinformation.
so how many games have you heard in chat some horde players complaining about how strong the alliance cave res?
I throw this out to any horde players, is this a thing that horde complain about in AV?
so the alliance cave only got strong after the druid fix? just stop with your false narratives now.
no pushing your opinion would be a better description, you have nothing to back up the trash coming out your mouth.
Alliance defended for longer games before the druids got fixed because they bugged them to do far more turn ins than normally possible, you may want to work on your reading comprehension as well seeing as you misread the lose fast meta starting AFTER druids got fixed (meaning alliance didn’t defend after druids finished turn ins).
I guess you missed the part of .e stating I’ve had 3 games where the alliance used their cave and bridge properly, and all 3 resulted in a horde loss. Another person in here gave their recount of one of their games where alliance used it properly and turned SPGY (which was horde controlled) into a meat grinder on rez. When they had been getting smashed as alliance up until that point. Because they used their map advantages properly. Scroll through this very thread and you will see it.
The reason you don’t see complaints about it is because alliance don’t use it 99% of the time. But that 1% of the time, the few who experience it know what it can do. And I can tell you know it’s even more unfun to play against than the horde cave. That is the problem with the caves, neither one is broken op map favoritism, they just aren’t fun to play vs. And the reason it’s not map favoritism? Because both sides have it. It’s just one team doesn’t even try to use it most games because of the min max meta making the short que times want quick losses over 2 hour wins.
right so alliance won 3 games with their cave res superiority.
I wonder how many games horde won with theirs??? probably in the thousands?
Have a good night, your not worth the time.
Thank you for your salt contribution, fellow alliance player.
Almost at the 9k milestone!
thank you for your standard flavor of the month come back, your contribution has been average as usual.
Alliance don’t USE their cave rez advantage 99% of the time because of the min max meta we are in.
The farm of rep is better for alliance for multiple fast losses than a 2+ hour win.
sure thing 
That’s true for the most part but some horde teams have made some adjustments over the last few days. Namely, defending their keep early.
Just want to comment once more on the absolute absurdity of the months of people claiming that some “map advantage” was to blame for the Horde’s insane win rate.
When people try to win instead of looking for excuses to give up, they win. What a bizarre concept! Alliance now buff, they report AFKers and no longer employ some losing “cubby” strat. They no longer attempt to ride by the Horde without dismounting to fight and allowing themselves to be AOE’d down.
Paladin buffs > any map advantage the Horde have.
the games are always a race now and ppl only care about their hph. sad.
but this is what we get with this version of AV
Hopefully when tbc classic comes out classic av will becomes the war scale BG its meant to be for both factions.
LOL welcome to reinforcements…
I mean there are a few people playing D, if you can convince enough ppl to play D with you, it’s an automatic win and generally a fun game.
I think your misunderstanding what I am saying.
Those that play vanilla classic AV will be more likely to play it for fun after tbc classic comes out and result in vanilla classic av being played more like the war scale BG it is. Because the min max meta will mostly move on to tbc. At least, that’s the hope.