This entire issue with AV stemmed from them removing the ability for the minority PVP faction to premade in a solo queue. They’ve also introduced other changes to the BG’s such as fixing the druids, closing the backdoors.
You’re not arguing in good faith.
No, it’s not a change. It’s from Vanilla. It is by definition authentic Vanilla.
Here, let me help you. Picture it’s late 2006. It’s Vanilla. Blizzard creates a brand new server. That’s what we have here with Classic.
Rofl, you’re just ignoring everyone.
The AV queue situation started when Blizzard changed the BG queue system. Original Vanilla queue system was a simple FIFO. What we have today is a clusterf*k.
By this logic if there was Naxx-level gear available from level 10 quests in Goldshire that would be authentic. It’s from Vanilla!
Thank you for agreeing that changes are bad?
Um, at what point in Vanilla were level 10 quests in Goldshire giving Naxx-level gear?
And this brings up the third thing that should be done:
AV is an asymmetric map, those are notoriously difficult to balance. So you should always randomize the starts so that each team, over time, has a chance at all aspects of the map.
Thank you for admitting things have changed. Because it sure looked like you were in denial buddy.
Um, at what point in Vanilla were 1.12 changes available at BWL’s launch?
Not content. Systems. And yes, it was a bad change. Just like the 30 cap instance was bad. Just like layering continues to be bad.
At any point a new server was made past 1.12. Pretty simple answer.
Or to get even simpler. Any time a new player started playing at that point. Or a guild started raiding at that point. It’s an authentic Vanilla experience. Like it or not. What you’re asking for is not authentic.
So you don’t think that change to the BG queue system affects the content of the BG’s?
And were any new servers released during patch 1.12? I’ll wait for you to check before you answer.
Edit - I was looking at the wrong year.
I count 5 servers created after 1.12 until before the TBC pre-patch. But even if there weren’t, I already said why that wouldn’t matter.
Oh, I knew there were. I was just seeing how much work I could get you to do.
Others have already come up with other changes, I just like watching you grasp at straws. Ta-ta!
No, actually either you thought wrong or you looked up the wrong info and thought you had me trapped. =cP But funny thing…I was there in Vanilla. I actually know what I’m talking about. They were constantly adding servers back then, and when they did guess what…people weren’t screaming at the top of their lungs for Blizzard to roll back itemization to earlier patches. This is just nonsense what’s going on.
And no one has named a single change to actual content, because there has been none. And there will be none. That defeats the whole point of Classic. If you are obsessed over AV wait until TBC when the cave gets moved. Then Alliance will win 90% of the games and the Horde will flood the forum asking for it to be changed.
Then let them revert a change they made and put the BG numbers back in the queue.
We could start with AV itself. In vanilla, when an alliance character died fighting at SFGY before and it wasn’t hard capped by alliance, he would respawn at SHGY. Now he respawns all the way back at AS. In vanilla, when an alliance character died trying to defend SPGY and it got capped while he was dead, he respawned at AS, now he spawns in the starting cave.
That’s two, just from AV, and there are more differences as well, of course, since they’ve specifically made changes to AV since launch, from how queueing works, to the geometry of the map.
I’m sorry…was I only supposed to name one? My bad.
Alliance wont git gud. They refuse to do the objectives of the map that break turtles and horde defense. They are lazy and bad and need to learn how to play AV
JuSt LeArN tO pVp says the Horde main who throws 40 people at SH because he doesn’t need to defend IBGY at all.
I’d much rather see a change such as swapping Horde and Alliance sides permanently, or allowing faction vs faction, and/or random side swaps.
And then banning anybody who complained about AV ever again.