But they give more assistance than being full on stealthers watching YouTube next to the main battle or sitting in the back behind a ledge/wall.
Then do not make accusations you cannot back up.
Can you not read I said when I got off of work.
Yeah and? Thatâs barely doing much of anything. And this is coming from a stealther. The contribution level of a low ranking player is virtually nill. It is essentially the same as a person who goes in, doesnât heal, gets 1 killing blow, then does nothing the rest of the game. The contribution happened, but the impact it had was so minimal that whether you were there or not made no difference.
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Honestly, this is a bit of a sore subject for me. I donât like how AV allows lowbies.
See my response to Broken :). Yeah they did more. It wasnât much more, but more. Thatâs still leeching in my book.
For all their limitations theyâll still contribute more to the game than the tier 2 rank 13 sitting in stealth out of harms way.
Agree. Barely though. The âthey are still tryingâ aspect sounds like they deserve some kinda trophy for dragging their team down and getting carried to free rep and honor they did little to achieve. I am sure not everyone will agree with my take on that. Thatâs fine.
They should have done the brackets as 50-=59 and 60 but #nochanges and all.
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They might be âtryingâ but in reality they likely took the spot of someone who would also be trying but actually be the appropriate level.
So no sub 60âs in AV are moochers regardless of them âtryingâ
Dont mistake me - I dont care for them either. I view the level 51 in AV in 40s quest greens the same way I viewed jerks who would pvp naked in random bgs in retail. Youre a free hk and holding the team backâŚbut the game doesnt prevent you from being here so I just gotta deal with it - and Ill take something over nothing since I have no other choice.
Sometimes that level 55 that goes into DBN with you is the difference between recapping the bunker or getting killed a couple of times 1v1 before it burns. Admittedly there arent many situations where they can contribute like a focused and geared 60 but its not like theyre breakin any rules or codes of conduct or anything.
Not saying anyone should be banned for joining or anything silly like that lol. But they are still leeching for the most part. They are just leeching less. Like, I can respect that they are giving the effort and trying to help out where they can. But an active leech is still a leech lol.
My shaman is full leech mode!!
Got 2 levels last night Iâm 53 now, and did 4 AV games!!
We out here ranking!
Intent is a big deal to me. There are those that go in with the intention of being carried or gifted something they did nothing to earn - then there are those who say AV is a 51-60 BG, screw it Im goinâ in and just do the best that I can.
For me its a wash because both sides have their share of lowbies. Reapers may be conducting a much too small of a sample size of an experiment but if both sides are equal in this regard then it doesnt matter - we can focus on actual leeches instead.
Still, Ive played both sides extensively at the same time and it definitely feels like the alliance has more of them more often than not. Its worth pointing out that after the horde wipes any alliance attempts south of SHB and the allies resign themselves to looting as many corpses as they can, they are much easier to spot in bigger numbers.
Other than that I really dont disagree. Ive seen the same garbage from both sides and not just in AV. Woops, cant cap that third base, just let them 4 cap and farm kills at ST/Farm. Welp, they capped the first flag and have a 2 to 1 HK advantage, just sit flag room for some hks and let the FC go.
So yeah, both factions are pretty much the same. AV can still produce the results its producing - the linear thinkers are confounded by this because they think that means AV should be 50/50 - but its whatevs. They think queue times and metas are irrelevant too. /shrug
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Yeah but thatâs the thing, âIâm doing the best I canâ from a low level is just a justification for them queuing up knowing theyâre going to be burden on their team. It doesnât really excuse doing it that theyâre slightly less useless than someone whoâs flat out afk.
They dont need to justify anything to you, me or this forum. If youre level 51 or higher you can queue for AV. Thats all anyone needs to know or understand about the matter.
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You were the one talking about how intent matters. And I agreed, these people are intentionally queuing up knowing theyâll be a burden on their team.
You canât get 2 levels with 4 avs
Itâs one bar max per av, if youâre rested
I was questing in queâŚ
It matters to me. Others might have a different opinion.
The game doesnt care what my opinion is. Leeches or well intentioned lowbies are allowed in just the same.
If a stealther is causing folks to backtrack from the front lines, what difference does it make what level they are? Seriously dude. If you are doing the stealther job correctly, you are performing a valuable service. Not everything in AV is about the PVP.
A lowbie stealth capping the horde base towers repeatedly would be HUGE.
Yeah, hard disagree, and have to wonder where the lowbie touched you.