Well Drinknbling, you seem pretty upset but I’ll keep posting until someone proves me wrong. And up to now it didn’t happen. I timed stuff and no one, literally no one came and even gave me a different timer … I am still waiting.
So it’s obviously not opinion despite how you feel and I will keep writing since some people use opinions to try to let people believe map imbalances explain alliance defeats.
Youtube is hard.
The 1500 rated heroes are all here
Not sure what you are referring to by 1500 rated heroes. There is no rating in classic. But I’m not a fan of youtube either.
You post on a retail toon which shows all you have done in this game.
You have no PvP achievements, but yet here you are posting in a PvP thread.
Also if you don’t look at youtube, videos were posted here, it’s not my job to provide you evidence that is literally everywhere.
I’m not sure what you think needs to be proven to you, you seem to lack all understanding of PvP.
He must have got the word out. Four AVs up atm.
Good.
I hope they feel every piece of that que time. You know it’s the ONLY bg there guys do, so they can feel good for once.
I post on a retail toon cause:
What pvp achievement you want me to have ? I do a lot of pvp and I like it. I gave you facts and your only anwers is “you’re not a pvp hero”. I don’t even need to be good at pvp or a “hero” of something. You can’t contradict my simple facts that the map imbalances are not impactful:
Concerning the video, ok mon, if you don’t want to win an argument, don’t give me the videos. The one I saw posted up there is poor analysis of av, made by streamers who obviously didn’t do that much AVs.
And sure if you need to insult me without giving a single fact, sure man, I lack the understanding of pvp if you think you win an argument that way, good for you.
This is a lose condition for alliance as SHGY has been soft capped before IBGY is hard capped.
Giving insults is his best argument. It’s why he uses it so much and why he has no facts or evidence. I gave evidence and he turned to personal insults and ignored the actual evidence that he asked for.
I showed over 10 afk/leaching alliance in one AV match. And his reply was calling me a clicker and ignoring the screenshots evidence of over 25% of alliance not even trying to win the AV being the cause for their losses.
It’s just how he “wins” arguments. Insult the opposition and ignore their evidence.
It’s not a lose condition
The only lose condition is the boss being killed.
It’s a tug of war map, you can come back from losing any objective other than the final boss being dead.
You giving up is your own fault.
Contrary to your beliefs you can win AV without capping a single bunker or GY. Delay horde offensive long enough while you sneak an offensive force onto horde base.
Backdoor strategy does work. But you give up before you can even put it into play, so your team can’t win when 25+% gave up on winning before the match even started.
The map is a very minor factor compared to the dead weight that your own team puts on the backs of the alliance that are trying to win.
See when people say you don’t understand pvp, it’s actually really helpful when you prove them right by not understanding why that’s important.
It’s much easier for you to just demonstrate your incompetence than for people to explain it to you.
How does the classic AV game end?
When a GY gets capped? No.
When the final boss does? Yes.
So you tell me what is the condition that causes a loss?
Like I said you don’t even understand the basic impact SHGY soft capping before IBGY has on the game.
But then you think alliance can win by turtling in DB.
AV classic has no time limit. Any match can be turned around as long as the last boss isn’t killed. You refusing to play a 2+ hour game to do that isn’t the maps fault. you giving up 20 minutes in when it looks like the game won’t be a fast win isn’t the maps fault.
Your blaming the map for YOU giving up.
Do you give up in WSG if horde get the first flag cap? No? Then why are you so eager to give up in AV after horde get the first GY cap? Because you don’t want to play a long game, you want a fast game. You giving up isn’t the maps fault. If your going to give up 20 minutes into the AV, don’t bother queing up at all, you will be helping the alliance win AV more often by not queing.
It’s funny that you continously demonstrate you just lack basic knowledge of how terrain and the rez mechanics of the map work. The other side flag capping doesn’t do anything to make it harder to flag cap in WSG, but like I said you lack basic comprehension of how AV terrain impacts the over all game.
And no alliance are not going to play a 2 hour game that is going to be a loss anyways. Sorry you don’t understand why getting farmed north of SHGY while horde summon things isn’t fun.
Sorry you don’t understand how to PvP beyond run into meat grinder or be meat grinder.
Strategy is beyond your scope of pvp understanding it seems.
It’s okay not to understand how basic concepts like choke points work, you’re just not good at pvp there’s no shame in that.
Says the person calling a 40 yard “choke point” more effective than the bridge.
Let alone the fact your a druid who can stealth past.
Guerrilla warfare tactics work wonders in AV. I’ve turned games before simply because I’m willing to use invisibility potions to do the job of stealth classes on my hunter.
You lose at PvP because you see the only options as run face first into enemy or have enemy run face first into you. Try using strategy once in a while, you would be surprised how much it helps.
There’s a reason premades use a hunter with eagle eye in AB. To see what the opponent is doing earlier and react to it faster. Aka strategy.
Right the bridge alliance can turtle at until horde summon the ice guy, not super effective as that’s just a delaying tactic not a winning strat.
The alliance can hold the bridge with about 20 alliance the other 20 should be on offensive AND stopping the summon of ice daddy. The summon has counterplay, you not using it is your own fault. On top of that if ice daddy is summoned your offensive team could fight it before it even gets out of the valley. When horde have left him to walk north.
There is counterplay options, you not using them isn’t the maps fault.