when the players execute my strategy well, the games are under 40m
#nochanges
I like the added challenge of Alliance AV
Gives it character like the rest of vanilla, before blizzard caved to forum cry babies
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We already know you donāt have one of these.
Admission the map is imbalanced. Duly noted.
Win rate of 40% during AV weekend.
This shows a vast majority of alliance winrate problem in AV is caused by the player based.
Heās not trying to say the map is perfectly balanced, itās not. But all the āitās the maps fault we lose 99% of the timeā mantra has been disproven. Even at a 40/60 you try to twist it to show the map is always at fault for your losses.
Itās
Not
The
Map
The alliance players are causing a large percentage of that loss rate by giving up before the game even starts.
Do I think the GY Rez selection should get looked into? Yes, but the horde cave isnāt the issue. Alliance have their own cave for a defenders advantage and if used right can be stronger than the horde cave in terms of defending.
The alliance cave offers them much more defensive power than the hordes cave offers for defending. The horde trade some of that defending power on the cave for offensive power.
Alliance cave offers alliance a huge numbers advantage of 30/Rez cycle vs the hordes 10 when used properly with positioning of death spot letting the player chose to Rez at aid station or their cave. This combined with the bridge allows the alliance to hold off a much larger number of players with around 20 alliance because they have a strong choke point, a cave Rez behind the horde push to flank their healers or go offensive, a GY Rez on the defending side of the bridge to continue holding it. And if needed the cave resets have a trinket to get to the aid station side and add to defending.
Horde cave does offer more offense options, but alliance cave offers far more defending power than horde cave does and still offers offensive push options.
Keep blaming the map though, because you dismiss all evidence that shows your wrong about the major cause of alliance loss rate in AV.
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Glad the defeatist cheerleaders are not getting to you.
Keep at it, it is refreshing to have a worthy opponent.
Keep giving blizzard reason to ignore you.
too much herd mentality on alliance
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The fact that you think this tiny sample size means anything shows you do not have the brain power to be a useful contributor to this thread and are in fact a troll.
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You mean the sample sizes of the last few months of AV weekend where every weekend I see alliance go up to near 50% winrate of my personal experience, multiple other people stating they have seen the same thing of AV weekend and somehow alliance start winning without a map change?
Hmmm I wonderā¦
The sad thing is that those reading ānear 50%ā refuse to acknowledge that the ones that cause the 99% loss rate are the ones preventing it from going over 50% on AV weekends. Those defeatists are still dragging the rest down.
Just imagine if those who claim to boycott AV actually did so.
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50% win rate? I nearly rolled out of my chair laughing.
Key words are important, near 50%
Even just considering Scotās 40% win rate from this weekend thatās a winrate of 99% loss to 60% loss rate for alliance just from it being AV weekend, the rare time of year when some of the best alliance players come back to AV, and thus even out the skill difference in AV because the best of the horde never left AV.
This shows that the map is not the major cause of alliance losing 99% of games outside of AV weekend. Itās the player base.
And it was on a Sunday night when nearly all the horde rankers would be capped, and also still a literal nothing considering sample size so gg
Well when you dismiss 100s of small sample sizes that all show alliance approach (but still short of because of their dead weight and some minor map issues from GY selection) a 50% winrate in AV weekendā¦
Itās not just my sample size or Scotās Iām going off of. But feel free to dismiss all evidence that doesnāt support your agenda of making AV a free win for alliance.
wHy aRe wE lOsInG?
https://imgur.com/D8Lxapw
bUt tEh mApZoR!
https://imgur.com/va5lZNG
edit: This is just a sampling of a game from today, on a holiday weekend no less. I simply sorted by HKs, but note the towers assaulted and such as well. (alliance assaulted a grand total of ONE tower. They assaulted a total of ONE enemy GY. Not capped, just assaulted. ) The map does not explain the reason that from lowest to highest was nearly solid blue, and highest to lowest is solid red. The nearly solid blue one is most likely those that are just there to sponge, the ones that drag even holiday weekend AVs to 40% for alliance.
You lot have a LOT of dead weight. THAT is your issue.
(in before ābUt tEh RaCiAlZoRs!ā)
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If you donāt like a long AV then you should try retail.
Yeah, I cannot comprehend the mentality that a long win is counted as a loss.
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Yeah itās a Monday what do you think is gonna happen when the alliance rankers are all capped. You love making out of context arguments donāt you?
Red advantage shows far more when the ally team doesnāt have any good players
His losses mostly appear to have occurred on Sunday night which happens to correlate with when the Alliance rankers would no longer be in there. Coincidence? I think not.
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If you go back and actually follow his updates, most of his wins came earlier on AV weekend which also correlates with when your best players are in the BG.
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Again, 40-60 isnāt an acceptable ratio. But everyone just assumes that Blizzard has no tools to simulate thousands of games when both sides are gasp evenly skilled, geared, and motivated. If you think they are seeing a 99% win rate in those simulations, you are crazy. Repeating myself: 40-60 isnāt acceptable either. I want the cave respawns taken out of the rotation until all GYs are lost. But the whole āit is the mapā argument takes it to extremes that are simply not accurate and they become less influential when a player on the Alliance side manages a high win ratio during the times when the good Alliance players were actually in games.
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Hay blizzard, while your reviewing my post to see if itās ātrollingā or not how about after you overturn it as I know will happen, review the people who reported it for abusing the report feature against people who disagree with them.
Thanks. Iām getting sick of the time these clowns are wasting for employees who are moderating these forums. Let them focus on the real abuse instead of trying to weaponize them because you disagree with someoneā¦
Also to the mods reading this, keep up the good work, and please discuss a possible punishment with your higher-ups for people who are just mass reporting falsely because they disagree with what the person said.
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Thatās a big part of the problem, taking IBGY. Trading SHGY for IBGY is a big gamble for alliance. Itās no big deal for horde if they swap IBGY for SHGY. They got a rez advantage and a 30 second head start on the timers.
When horde have to play like complete trash or alliance have to coordinate like a premade, itās not a balanced bg.
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another win
getting more recallers now this is good