Can you stop being so toxic?
I plead with you to leave these great heroes of the alliance alone. They are trying for a once in a lifetime achievement. They are highly skilled and dedicated to getting rank 14.
You only need to wait for four more weeks. Then you can get pugs again. Sorry the best players do what they need to do.
Stop being so toxic.
so a hunter puts a aoe trap were the paladin normally consecrates. uses eyes of the beast to pull the mobs (lets hunter control pet) over said trap. pet dies hunter gets aggro. guess where the hunter is when he casts eyes of the beast?
A warlock on one of my teams did the same thing by sending his voidwalker in getting aggro and saccing it while popping a healthstone and it gave him massive aggro and did the same thing, pulled warmasters out. he was at RH.
And like someone else said, if only there were invulnerability potions. It can be done, each class just needs to learn how they can. Just because you personally do not know how does not mean it can not be done.
How is it you can talk so much without saying anything at all? You have no solutions, nothing but tired old insults and delusion.
I predicted what would happen in phase 3 while the Horde zugzugs were spamming the forums in phase 1 with useless âreroll/quitâ tripe. When phase 3 launched, and horde were gloating about how they only had 2 min queues day one, and theyâd gotten away with it, and how pve servers had balanced them out- I was telling you guys the consequences for your actions were going to hit you hard, soon.
When Horde were claiming phase 3 was going to be an even worse Alliance cry fest because Horde premades were going to dominate until every Alliance quit- I was saying that it was going to be Horde hurting from the premades.
Mere weeks later, and look at the forums. You want to say I donât know the consequences of whatâs going on? Kid, Iâve been calling it accurately from day one while your faction proclaimed its ignorance with pride as if proving your idiocy were a badge of accomplishment.
The gameâs already ruined, thereâs multiple servers that have dropped to 5% Alliance while Horde still cling to mantra that everythingâs balanced. Thereâs half hour or longer queues for Horde, and Horde are still claiming itâs balanced.
Feel free to stop acting like they are- the Horde spent phase 2 calling Alliance nothing more than NPCs to be farmed.
Ooo, scathing, run out of things to say and trying to look like you have a big epeen? You forgot to demand I 1v1 you, youâre just acting -
Yeah, like that.
If I didnât post, these forums would be so clogged in Horde BS youâd suffocate on your own fumes. I get that at this point itâs mostly Horde left, and you all love to get together and circle about how great you are for picking Horde- but unfortunately if Horde gets their way, it
Actually, it might not even last that long if you donât pull your heads out of your favourite spots and start realizing maybe rather than demanding Blizz change things so Horde can have it easier, that you can and will have to change if you want the game to survive.
But who am I kidding- the faction that cheered as their pvp servers became pve servers couldnât care less about the gameâs survival, at least not until it dies and you all start panicking, asking why nobody saw it coming.
People will use exploits until they lose their value. Ally players can lose said value, if either Blizzard is acting or Horde stops playing.
Forget about BG´s, and go back to world pvp. Maybe that´s how they will learn.
Overall, it is very sad, that the âteenagersâ from pirate realms, have killed the Vanilla experience so much. It´s not just pvp, it´s also pve where they exploited layering. They know every single exploit from the pirate realms, and once AB is out, they will also know how to exploit that, just like BWL or AQ.
This game just wasn´t made for us Veterans who played in 2004, it´s for a new generation of gamers, that has a different mindset, the same mindset, that made retail so bad.
By that logic any boss buff that a shaman can purge is an exploit #gnomesDOitBETTER
Tell that to the ever increasing number of Horde players exploiting the cliffs of the Alliance base since the beginning. Hell, itâs been an issue for many years in general, but moreso now with classic.
You have 12 mages in every game. Just use the broken recall trinket and spam arcane explosion like all the moderately intelligent horde groups do.
I donât mind queues. I can do stuff in between.
If alliance couldnât form premades, there would be no AV because they lose otherwise.
Quick losses I donât mind, can defend or try to, but lots of here people protesting its not a bug or exploit. Itâs cheese and it stinks and everyone knows it.
Personally, more annoyed at alliance selling ranks / tight grip over ranking (at least in our group), but as horde doesnât affect me.
Longer queues mean more kill squads out in the world too 
What universe do you live in where Alliance are winning AV in classic? cause Iâd like to go there please.
Hopefully I get banned pretty soon anyway
Why do you think they would lose ?
So the ledge mechanic where a player can jump on or off a ledge and cause an aggroâd NPC to run the long way around to get to the player is not a game mechanic?
I mean, itâs been proven over and over and over. Itâs also why they changed the way AV was played - so, considering I linked the changes, explained them, and all youâve linked is a map where you drew a line 
Of course you would disagree - because this version makes it completely lopsided and in favor of one faction.
You proved my last point as fact. The ONLY thing that is really opinion if that 1.12 AV sucks. But, I donât know anyone who can think that enjoys it. Also, most of the people on these forums say they want pre 1.12 AV over this - both horde an alliance.
And, Blizzard absolutely changed 1.12 AV due to it being a zergfest that was lopsided. If it wasnât, why would they have changed it? They havenât changed anything else in the old BGs other than a time limit/updated models.
Thinking outside your selfishness is hard, but I would like to suggest you try it. Literally at no point as anyone on horde asked for anything to âfavorâ them, or be changed other than making things equal, or at the very least, go to a previous iteration of the BG.
But somehow the folks who benefit from the current system on alliance side have decided that they are either:
Owed this because of P2 (which is just stupid)
Somehow better at PVP cause they can exploit and reach general faster
Either way, itâs telling that people are somehow okay with the fact that when all things should be equal thereâs a clear advantage. Itâs like when two little toddlers are in the sandbox and one has a shovel and throwing sand in the other oneâs face. The other kid just wants to know if he can have a shovel and the toddler tells him no, he can do the same thing with a rake.
Sometimes it can work, but most of the time it takes longer and less effective. Congrats, youâre a toddler.
I love Horde tears lol
This entirely.
Before the Horde bashers come in and say there are Horde exploits too, please remember geography dictates the win in a pure Boss rush. Alliance has the advantage.
Put this to bed already.
against a reasonable premade?
nothing
if all 40 dive in on the alliance zerg theyâll get deleted by blast nova + sappers and then itâll happen again after they all respawn and do it again.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!
If you have spent any time in AV you know the Alliance has advantage in a Boss rush which is how the Alliance are playing the game almost entirely.
Again, I have said it before⌠Stop with this
Thank you for someone else âGETTING ITâ!
Now spread the gospel
against zergs i can cap db south before they cap either frostwolf tower, i assume iâd be able to solo pull van faster than they can pull drek as well with prospector or whatever the hell her name is
Horde have to do one of two backdoor entrances and tip toe around the NPCs in order to succesfully do a Prospector pull. Iâve watched streams where Horde have won in 7 minutes. However, it was essentially a premade due to how Russian queues work on EU servers. Basically, itâs not going to happen on US servers unless premades are allowed. Iâd rather just see premades broke before even more premading in AV though. It negatively impacts the alliance players who are not in premades.