Auction House [Feedback]

[Àryã-proudmoore]

I get the benefits the recent changes to the AH are trying to accomplish - but after trying things out, I think the values/limits used to initiate the throttling need to be adjusted. Here are some reasons why:

Impacts
Casual Crafters (especially those with dual professions):
The current limits impact casual crafters with dual professions even if they only list their stock once a day.

With crafted gear having 6 suffixes/versions a PIECE - that already puts the number of items at 36. But posting these 36 items actually takes 72 actions because you have to search each of those items and then post each of them as well.

This doesn’t include all of the non-gear items like bags, follower equipment, drums, etc.

Now double all of that when a casual player has 2 crafting professions.

I’m not sure what the “reasonable expectation” Blizzard has for posting items - but in this case, posting even ONCE a day hits the limit and appears to affect players that aren’t the target for the change.

Transmog and pet sellers:
Even if these players are posting once a day - they’re likely posting hundreds of items and are getting impacted when they’re not the “greedy goblins” targeted for the changes. They’re just in a market that naturally can have hundreds of items to work with - which btw, already has a hefty overhead cost with deposit values.

Conclusion:
The current changes definitely seem to impact more people that the targeted players.

Making only posting actions count towards the limit will help - but still won’t fix the full problems being experienced.

Increasing the values makes sense - but it would be nice to have some transparency and understand what Blizzard thinks is “reasonable” especially for casual players that have 2 crafting professions - but even more so for the xmog/pet sellers.

Another option all together would be to revert these changes and instead, have a delay between when you cancel an auction and when you get it in the mail.

That will slow down all the greedy goblins that are cancel/posting non-stop throughout the day - but won’t impact the players that post once a day in large volume.

[Thór-blackrock]

@Arctyca-azralon

So this is my experience with the new “budget”.
the way I earn gold is simple: i have 6 toon’s at 120lvl, so i have every profession at its max lvl too.
I do craft uncanny 400 gear from every profession, which net me around 480 to 600 different itens.
when I do my ‘post scan’ i can only post 30 of my 480-600 uncanny gear.
will i ever cancel scan those ? NOP, ill never cancel scan, filling up the AH with stuff, waiting for it to expires, and just keep posting and instacutting everyone, because i have 10 of each piece of unccany gear.
im fk’d up, yeah im fk’d up, BUT, will I stop insta cut ? NOP, i wont. the avg player still wont sell.
PLUS, now that i know that blizz think this is an ‘QOL hotfix’ ill just make sure to do everything i can to make avg players life even harder.

Players with multiple crafting toons are impacted even worse - even if they never cancel their auctions.

[Trainwreckt-illidan]

I’m glad you called out the xmog and pet sellers. Xmog is huge for some people:

@Rod-ravenholdt

Here is some feedback from a player who has been with you since release day in 2004.

This is an idiotic change that hurts many more people than it helps.

I spend most of my time in the game nowadays farming old content for transmog and other items to sell on the AH. I don’t use fancy tricks, etc. I don’t sit there sniping items all day. I don’t constantly cancel and repost (I hardly ever cancel any auctions since I have so many anyway).

I have THOUSANDS of items for sale though at any time since I love this game and ( used to , now?) love farming old content. I’m on a low-population server—Ravenholdt—and I’m basically the only person listing most of the server’s transmog items. I’ve had MANY players contact me specifically asking if I’ve found X item that they’re looking for because they know if anybody has something like that up for sale on Ravenholdt, it’s probably me.

Even with TSM—an addon I love—a typical day BEFORE this change involved spending upwards of 2 hours just posting and/or reposting items. The auction house has ALWAYS been slow and primitive in WoW. But TSM made it bearable enough.

Now this throttling has reduced my posts to an utter crawl. Scanning and posting takes AGES. It took me multiple minutes to post just about a 100 items this morning, which is absurd. I’m dreading tomorrow when most of my auctions—which I set for 48 hours because, like I said, I hate cancelling and reposting takes forever anyway even before this change—are coming back then.

Transmog is not a “fast” seller because it relies on a certain player wanting to buy a certain item. It can be profitable when that item finally sells. But it requires reposting the item for many days in a row before that one player comes along to buy it.

All this change does is make me want to play the game less. I enjoy farming old content. I enjoy selling items. I get a lot of fun out of making gold and adding value to my server community by finding and selling items that most people lack the time to find.

But this change is so extremely painful, and posting is SO SLOW, that it’s made an already obnoxiously-slow auction house experience a million times worse. This is in no way hyperbole. I simply see little to no reason to waste my time if I cannot post items at a speed fast enough to allow me at least an hour or so to, you know, actually play the game instead of waiting for an INVISIBLE THROTTLE TIMER in the auction house all day long.

I rarely get annoyed by anything in WoW. I’ve always loved this game, since release. But this change literally destroys, by adding an invisible throttling timer that is obnoxiously long, what I still enjoy doing in the game: farming items and selling them on the auction house.

That’s my feedback. Hope you will listen and revert this insanity.

[Madbeatz-illidan]

@Àryã-proudmoore

Another option all together would be to revert these changes and instead, have a delay between when you cancel an auction and when you get it in the mail.

THis has been popping up as a suggestion in other threads. Seems like a better way to approach the problem.

@Jemithas-earthen-ring

One solution would be: let AH send you canceled items with 1 hour delay…problem solved.