This wont solve the issue. If you go FIFO, people will cancel scan and undercut by price, like it was before the update.
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I prefer the current system. I was replying to someone who doesnt appear to like the current system.
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This is a garbage change and will probably drive me to a different game. I enjoy playing the auction house and if Blizzard considers this an undesirable behavior I’ll find a game that encourages economic participation.
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I’d be just fine with that. It’s just too easy for someone to sit and post/cancel all day long. The NoLifer goblins have ruined the AH.
Yeah, why not make the CANCELLATION of an auction require extra time? Don’t make scanning and posting take extra time. You’re punishing the wrong people.
16 years playing and I can count how many times Ive posted on the forums with one hand. I try to always be constructive as possible but this aint it chief. F I X this now. Anyone and everyone can download TSM and if they choose not too then that is on them. WoWs economy is no different than Americas, no point in changing it now.
They really need to rethink or do away with this “fix”. I JUST came back 4 or 5 months ago (was out of the game for just over 3 years, my choice) JUST purchased Shadowlands 2 days ago only to log in this a.m. to find out that my usual AH tending that took 15-20 min was moving so slow I couldn’t even get it finished before I had to leave for work.
Thought it was a glitch and headed to work, get on during lunch - same crap, cant finish in my 30 min of lunch time. I do not usually log in at work.
All-in-all - what use to take me 30min/day to do has topped over the 2hr mark. I do not get endless hours to play every day and this has completely broken the game for me 2/3 of my available play time has been eaten up because of this.
I do not want to spend my entire time at the AH , I have one account and only about 3 - 4 hrs total a day if I am lucky.
Fix this.
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i probably responded to the wrong post in my frustration. 
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saul goodman. i was confused as hell. haha
I was informed that this is a better location to post about this topic. As such, I’m moving my original post to here.
This conversation needs to keep going. My intention was to put my two cents in when I arrived home from work, only to find the thread had been locked! Thank you for opening this area to keep the conversation going.
It makes sense that all of the traffic for the AH is bogging down the game and the servers. This is likely exceptionally high recently due to many in game and out of game reasons. I understand that likely Blizzard was at a point that they had no other alternatives and this measure needed to be put in.
I am most concerned with the reasoning and explanation that was given.
First, if this was marked as a “Temporary Fix” until Blizzard could work out a way to segregate the AH traffic from the rest of the game I would have been absolutely okay with that. Further, there was no advance warning until players started to complain. (Another reason we need a place to keep this conversation moving.)
Second, there was a comment that using an addon allows some players to gain “Economic Benefit” over other players. Isn’t this also the same for addons like DBM in regards to the PvE experience? Those without it or similar addons suffer a SIGNIFICANT disadvantage as well.
I would like to request that the changes stay in place and are monitored for effectiveness with feedback to players on how well it is working and what alternatives are being considered.
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I consider myself an “average” AH user. I’m not a big gold maker, don’t use TSM, and post usually once a day 25-100 items (mostly things I’ve crafted or random drops I’ve gotten while doing other types of pve content).
I am experiencing throttling after only posting 10-15 items in a session.
How exactly is this solving a problem? You are hurting everyone who uses the AH to sell more than 2 things at a time. WAY overkill and a big fat NAY.
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They didnt ruin the AH, they just put more time and effort to try and sell stuff using the systems in place. You can blame the LIFO system and the competition for the constant undercutting/reposting, since either you do that, or you get buried by the competitions auctions and sell nothing.
Bots are way worse for the economy and the regular player yet this change doesnt affect them at all, and blizzard takes ages to ban them.
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Dude, that sucks. 
I very much feel for the quandary your wife is currently in. I myself was sitting on quite a large stock of stuff I’d stuffed in an old guild bank while I levelled my alts over the last five or so years, and luckily I don’t have much of it left over after I started selling it for the longboi back in October. I shudder to think how this is affecting her enjoyment and others in similar situations’ enjoyment of the game going forward.
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My fundamental question to Blizzard is this:
Which players is this supposed to help?
Non-goblins will see higher AH prices and more undercutting by 1c and auction houses clogged with outdated posts.
Casual goblins will almost certainly lose money net because of higher individual item prices caused by people getting out of the AH business, especially for transmogs and greens.
Flippers might benefit, since they tend to do far fewer scans, but flippers tend to be the high-end goblins anyway, so that can’t be the goal.
Regular goblins who like to find a market, build up an inventory, and then post/cancelscan/restock will be driven from the market because what they wanted to do takes twice as long.
Results: A less efficient market with fewer large-scale goblins, those who stay in the market have more consolidated power because they have multiple accounts and nearly unlimited time, and the rest of us see higher prices and more difficulty making gold.
Bad, bad bad.
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I’d prefer that to this, honestly.
It would effect (rare) mistakes, but wouldn’t impact the average daily use of the AH.
They just need to limit cancel scanning (not remove it though) if it’s really the problem.
But posting and scanning shouldn’t be limited.
Or they could make it so if you cancel an item it takes 30 minutes or an hour to come back too you.
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You know i cant believe blizzard did this . Mostly after all they hype about how shadow lands is going to be a real game changer when it comes to the devs “listening” the players. Then they decide to do this. No interaction or communication with anyone just a ninja nerf to all sellers across the board.
If they think this is good thing wait a week or two and see how the AH prices double… due to lack of stock… I know if this doesn’t get reverted blizzard will be losing 2 more subs. (both my accounts)
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Exactly, this only harms people that make gold by volume and diversity, mostly old world crafts, pets and transmog sellers, since the “no lifers” will just reduce the amount of items posted and keep scan-spamming on the fast-moving markets (current expansion stuff).
This doesnt help anyone at all.
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Based on this statement, auctionator and auctioneer having pre-defined undercuts is automation. The only thing TSM has different is the ability to define a price that is too high and what to do in that situation or too low and what to do in that situation.
Also - as someone who plays on a low pop server, I can say that this change was not needed at all on it. I never once experienced slow downs with the AH on that server. The problem is not the auction house, the problem is overpopulated servers. A problem that has existed for a long time and causes more problems than a laggy AH as people on the low pop servers that used to be healthy servers lost all their players to mega realms like Illidan and Area52, ect. A problem that should have been fixed a long time ago.
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