Since they are having problems fixing bugs currently I wouldn’t expect this.
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To make the game good again, they actually need a competent director and dev team. I’m sure that there are some good devs, but the ones at the top like Ion and that systems designer that attacked the player base shouldn’t be in their positions. They clearly have zero idea on how to lead or make a good game. Ion I’d like to see go back to what he does best, raid design. Unless there is massive change at the top, it won’t matter what patch we get.
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Yeah, to me, this is hands down the worst expansion ever. Worse than BfA or WoD. Obviously, this is just my personal take, and other people feel completely different and that’s fine.
To me, the past few expansions have been just utterly missed opportunities, in the manner of failed delivery.
WoD had potential, but the delivery was awful. The player expectations of community housing compared to what they got was a miss. The story was alright, I loved how they brought back Gul’Dan, but trying to tie in the garrisons was corny.
I loved Legion, I loved the storyline, but the systems were almost unbearable, and the fact that the artifact weapons storylines mostly had nothing to do with the actual Legion invasion kind of broke the story for me. They should have turned the pre-expansion invasion event back on in 7.2. It’s a Legion invasion, I should feel like the Legion is invading no matter what level or what toon I’m on.
BfA- king of missed potential for me. I loved the concept, the war mode was great, until they ruined it. Obviously the whole Sylvanas story was wrought with terrible writing, but I would have been happier with her being the final encounter in TB, than with what we got. TBH, I’m now looking back on BfA and missing it compared to SL.
Shadowlands ruined the lore for me. I just could not get into it at all. Couple that with awful game mechanics and systems- worst expansion to date. Obviously, I’m somewhat of a lore wh**e, and I can look past a few game mechanic misses if the lore and story is at least somewhat compelling.
I honestly don’t know if Blizz and WoW can recover from a terrible expansion AND the awful scandal. If they plan to…they absolutely have to start listening. They need to watch old YouTube content, rummage through the forums, whatever, and start listening. When testers tell you something doesn’t work, scrap it. When the base tells you they don’t like something…scrap it. 4 expansions later and we still have mission tables…
I unsubbed a while back, and just resubbed because I really do miss the game, and because there are still a few mage tower skins I want. Hear that Blizz? I resubbed only because one thing in a great expansion was so good, 2 expansions ago. Sorry this is so long, and I don’t think anyone will read this, but hopefully someone does and fixes the damn game.
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More like the devs listening to the feedback players have given them, telling players the game is perfectly designed and there’s nothing wrong besides unreasonable expectations of paying customers, and then blaming Asmongold for mind controlling players into leaving.
The first step is to admit that there are problems with the game, and that they made misjudgments. I don’t think they’re ready to do either of those. They’d rather let it go up in flames than admit that theirs is the responsibility for what has happened. Surely all they have to do is more of the same and wait for different results.
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The problem is they won’t have a 10.0 ready for at least another year so they can’t do a megapatch. They are doing 9.1.5 to keep us busy for the next 6 months until they have 9.2 ready. I am betting at this point there won’t be a 9.3 since they are so far behind right now.
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There’s just a wee little problem with that… 9.1.5 has no actual new content 
No new zone, no new dungeons, no new raids, no new BG maps…
Some minor QOL changes, and rehashed Legion content that is only up temporarily for 2 weeks… unless I missed something 
Um sir, I ordered my Shadowlands soup WITHOUT the monkey paw in it… looks down and it seems it’s inexplicably doing the back stroke somehow…
Agreed. They need to focus more on classic, it is a way better game overall.
Blizzard hasn’t been able to make a decent expansion since Mists of Pandaria sadly, and I feel weird even admitting that was actually somewhat decent in comparison to the the latter.
WoD was an utter pointless joke taking us to an alternate universe version of a part Draenor with a totally different history and Legion and then bringing that Guldan to our universe to lead the Legion on Azeroth. The content was bare minimum and the Garrison was basically just a mobile game town you log in to upkeep.
Legion at least wraps up the Legion story as it was and yet the entire expansion was pretty hit and miss besides all its features. The artifacts talents were pointless as you just go all of them anyway. Legiondaries had unpredictable drop rates, and other later features were kind of half baked.
BfA was a disaster for the most part with a war that wasn’t even really much of a war at all, a Sylvanas storyline jammed into it, and then to top it off when finish it off with something unrelated with N’Zoth. The story was all over the place and the features weren’t that exciting or interesting and felt pretty boring. Not to mention this continued systems for the sake of systems cause we need them to save the universe.
SL, yet another systems expansion where we need their powers to help save the Thanos like rip off story with a Legion army… not to mention the Sylvanas story resolution was seen from a mile away. The zones feel disjointed and uninspired and could have been done much better in design and in how they delivered the story. The current end game zone is nothing more than a continuation of lame time gating for the sake of slowing you down and making you log in. Not to mention this expansion is definitely not very alt friendly at all which is the opposite of what Ion stated years ago.
All of the latest expansions are very lazy in how they are made it’s basically based off a seemingly copy paste formula at this point with different window dressing.
You should probably look into what goes on during the Beta of any given expansion.
- Players point out flawed systems, offer ideas and suggestions.
- Other plays tell them to stop freaking out, it’s just beta.
- Blizzard progresses through beta without making changes from that feedback.
- Other players tell them to stop freaking out, they’ll fix it with a launch patch.
- Game launches irrespective of the complaints, no patch.
- 4-8 months later blizzard makes an article outlining how the system didn’t work as expected, and is going to change it in an upcoming patch. It’s all the stuff beta players complained about.
Yeah, it’s all based on “feedback.”
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I truly didn’t even notice the content droughts in BfA.
I was having a ton of fun in BGs.
But now PvP is awful.
SL on the otherhand, well I’m having a hard time finding a reason to log in. Except casual raiding.
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I doubt we will get a new expansion anytime soon. You have to tolerate SL for atleast another two years.
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This just illustrates what they think they can get the playerbase to believe.
I didn’t say that it was an effective strategy. They took comments from the forums and thought “hey, these guys must speak for the milion + players that this game has, so we’ll do this.”
In reality, there are probably only like 10 people who want to relive the mage tower and they only want to do that so they can get the druid guardian artifact look. There are probably an additional 200 people who want to be able to farm mythic raids to get transmog looks and maybe the mount off Argus. 
I have 72 2accounts
what about the 9.4 content? don’t you want to see the epic end of the story?
Doesn’t mean they won’t add more burrowed poer next expac, they seem to think it works.
No, the story is lame/don’t really care about the Jailer.
@devs: just get us “out” of Shadowlands and back to Azeroth asap pls.
I think one of the biggest issues is that they come out with all this content then fix things in patches in the future after release saying they learned from their mistakes. Round and round we go, and this seems more of a thing the last few expansions usually in regards to systems for the expansion (artifacts, azerite, covenants).
They also likely need to invite a wider range of players next alpha/beta to get feedback from all types of players if they didn’t before.
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I actually have to disagree here because Blizzard’s design problem isn’t about being lazy, it’s about being overly-ambitious.
They’re constantly trying to reinvent the wheel with new power systems, and instead of creating a design philosophy that taps on to existing assets, they’re trying to create new themes and assets every 2 years.
It’s simply not sustainable, and it’s no wonder why they keep failing to meet their promises.
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