If they care about server identity, then they must also hate lfg, crz, and anything cross-faction. Server identity no longer exists. Its all communities and discord.
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I don’t care what they said; my opinion remains the same.
Good luck.
They can also join a guild and that lets them set a minimum as well. OP is posting on a classic character though so we can’t see if they even went to the bother of doing that.
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Depends on context.
I’ll avoid ruining someone’s order if they put a good commission and clearly tried (have rank 3 mats).
If they loaded their order up with rank 1 and 2, and we’re just hoping someone would use concentration to fix their order, I don’t feel bad making their 3 star craft.
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i don’t. that’s something the troll made up.
? if you want the best item you gotta find the best crafter who specialized in it. its literally that simple. stop crying stop being lazy and converse and interact with others in an mmo instead of crying because some anonymous person didn’t get you the max IL on your craft.
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Funny, I quoted Blizzard but you say I’m a troll. Got it.
Because Blizzard wants to manipulate their players and play social-police. As you can tell by the laughable white knighting in this thread, it’s also supported by people who think spamming trade chat and whispering people is some kind of meaningful social interaction.
Quality limits on public orders are better for more people than not. It’s beneficial to crafters who don’t want to sit around in trade chat waiting to use their concentration. It’s beneficial to people trying to get something crafted who don’t enjoy outdated primitive chat trade RP.
It doesn’t even hurt the people who like trade-chat that much since they couldn’t endlessly craft max-tier crafts like they could in DF.
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Starting a public order and getting mad you didn’t get a minimum quality you wanted even though the system doesn’t offer is a you problem. You knew full well you couldn’t guarantee the minimum quality and were too lazy to ask a few crafters or do a private or guild order, which is 100% a you problem. That’s like parking a $1m+ sports car in a bad neighborhood and leaving the doors unlocked with the keys in it, then getting mad when you get carjacked. The heck did you think was going to happen?
Seriously you not knowing how to work with the system isn’t the fault of the game. See again the reason you don’t have minimum quality on public orders is because everyone would demand the highest quality and want to pay next to nothing for it. It would kill competition because only long time established crafters could answer the orders. Then you would be right back here whining about how no one wants to fill your orders and if they do you have to pay too much for it.
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Ah yes, people putting in orders for R5 on day 1 and then coming to the forums to complain that no one is filling their orders.
So “good”. So “different” from what is happening in this thread.
Public orders are for convenience. As such, convenience rarely emits quality. If you want quality, you take the steps to be sure, such as talking to someone personally who can make it
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Already stated that I waited for 20 minutes, my friend. Troll harder.
I guess what’s “lazy” is not reading the thread.
This is a nonsense irrelevant counter-point.
If people put up orders that can’t be filled, they simply won’t be filled.
Entirely irrelevant.
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Sounds like you shouldnt do a public order
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The only flaw I think the system has is that crafters cannot advertise services. Personal orders are great when you have a crafter in mind but you don’t then you have to look. People don’t like the looking part.
That doesn’t really answer the question of what the point of personal orders is in a world where you can set minimum quality for a public order, does it? Because if both allow for quality to be set, there is no reason to send a personal order.
Poster before you said it well, so I’ll just repeat it:
Now tell me how you are against LFG because you would prefer people spam trade chat to find groups.
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I have never used the public order system, because of this flaw. I DO have my own crafters, I know them all by name and … Surprise!.. I communicate with them. I have an entire discord bot and external communication system set up for my guild to ping crafters and place orders.
Don’t sit here and go “waaaah baby get guud”
When I’ve already circumvented this idiotic system and implemented something way better.
But guess what? I wouldn’t have had to do ANY of that work, if the actual public order system could do what it’s easily capable of.
What kind of stupid bs. Argument is “be social”
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Ask all day, you can’t guarantee it. Use /2 or /4
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“i want to be lazy and not interact with people”
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You seriously think that’s the “moral treatment” and high ground (and company) you want to keep for your moral standards?
The public crafting order system sets a minimum requirement of 1 star.
If I put a note next to it that says “pls 5 star”, that doesn’t change.
There’s no incentive to provide anything but the most basic of services … which is what the system is there for.
You are arguing it is immoral to provide the most common, expected, and intended services simply because of a note next to it…?
What’s next, you go into a bank and you put up a note next to the Cashier that says “I put a note here so it is immoral for you to not give me the contents of your vault.” Morality doesn’t work like that. None of this has anything to do with morality. There’s no expected outcome of ANY kind.
Putting up a note next to it changes nothing. All you have done is add a normative evaluation to something in order to defend harassment. That’s why I said that regardless of whether you are condoning it, you ARE in fact defending harassment.
As the OP of this thread has demonstrated over and over again.
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