it gets easier/feels better the 2nd time and beyond.
Retail WoW is already bloated with achievements, so why not just add more for them?
The goal is to make Classic last right? Every incentive needs to be made for that to happen, even if it means giving those still playing retail some achievements they can log into their retail accounts and look at.
Seasonal resets would be the most cost effective and easiest way for blizzard to preserve Classic and maintain hype and high player retention year on year. If players cannot stomach seasonal resets without some kind of “prize” on their retail account such as an achievement or toy, then they wont continue playing long-term.
People love to go on about how only a small % of people would want seasonal resets, but there will only be a small % of people left playing if you just leave the servers and never reset, people aren’t going to play forever. Seasonal resets have proven to work in other games such as PoE.
I’d point you towards the recently launched Everquest progression servers, they’re a grrwat example of “Vanilla” done well.
Keep in mind Everquest is… 25 now? That is a lot of content! They basically slowly unlock expansions and let people race to first.
There’s a lot of potential here. They could not do Arena this time and butcher classes :V
roll that magic 8 ball again, what makes you think ‘most people will quite within 6-12 months’?
just because you want to reset does not mean other people do. I for one love playing alts and would like to get them all leveled up, maxed professions, and decked out in T2-T3. no way I can get all 8 classes leveled and geared in 12 months. I don’t plan on raiding every day on a different toon.
you want competitive fine go play on your fresh servers and leave us alt-aholics and ‘casuals’ alone with out static servers.
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I dont think they should reset any servers for sure
some new fresh servers might be ok
but one thing to keep in mind is how disruptive these can be to existing servers
imagine your goal is to get full T3 in naxx, and you log in one day to a dead guild because they all flocked to a fresh server. rip
idk there are concerns
It will never stop being amusing how many people advocate for static /stagnant realma in the name of “authenticity” despite the fact you quite clearly didn’t get such stagnation in actual vanilla.
Authentic servers would be forcing you into tbc or wiping you out and letting you start over again.
Also the sheer audacity of a number of the casual players in this thread talking about wanting to make it to naxx over the long haul as if they’re entitled to be in there… Newsflash, if you can’t get there in the authentic time period, then you don’t have any damn business being in there in the first place. This is the exact kind of pathetic and disgusting entitlement that ruined retail over the years. Oh no, only 1% of players cleared the content! Yeah, GOOD! It was meant be pinnacle of pve back then, it should be rare and difficult to climb that mountain. Kind of like the rank 14 grind, it’s not necessarily meant for everyone, but rather something to aspire to. If you can’t make it in the authentic time window, then go ahead and suck less on the next server cycle and earn your way there next time rather than trying to change the game’s rules to fit your demented casual entitlement.
A classic will exist forever, as will the characters people create on them. With no resets. They may however merge servers and all players after a number of years.
What comes after classic? They already said they are absolutely open to considering TBC servers or WOTLK servers if demand is high enough after classic launches.
That does not mean Classic becomes those things. It means separate servers. That may or may not allow achievements and characters to carry. They are not at the point now to decide that. Blizzard is in wait and see mode. If they get enough Subs for classic, they will consider it a success and put money towards other projects like it. Maybe even a classic+ project.
If you want something after classic. That is similar to this experience… tell your friends to play classic. It increases odds of future similar projects.
It will also mean possible re-launches of other MMO games that died horrible deaths before improving too little too late. Classic could change the game industry just like the original game did.
This has nothing to do with the problem that will 100% arise with the servers where gold and gear has been farmed for years and years and years while being stuck at the same level and content.
What is the longest time in WoW from a final content patch to a new expansion? Its never been years and years, so it seems people have never thought about the consequences of allowing this to happen.
If you want a reset, then delete your character and remake it. Lmao. Problem solved.
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scroll up this has already been countered
very emotional post 10/10 would read again thank you
clearing naxx on classic is already not authentic compared to doing it in vanilla, even if you do it quickly. lets not try to pretend a time limit would legitimize it
no one is going to ask for your autograph for anything you do on classic
Is it really that hard to understand what I am talking about here?
An individual player deleting and starting over does not fix the problems that arise from leaving a server up for eternity of gear and gold farming.
I apologize, in advance, and I will not call anyone ignorant, until and unless someone proves to me that they are, but in your assessment of attachment you’re neglecting the Role-playing realm.
RPers tend to begin with a simple backstory, and let their characters grow and change and develop along with the story. Even leveling can be, and is built into the story for my character.
And the last thing I want is for a Blizzard to delete my character, and end my character’s story, for me.
Haven’t you ever re-read a classic novel? I have read the Lord of the Rings every October since 1973. And, in Vanilla, my favorite dungeon, Shadowfang Keep, occurs early in Horde leveling, and I ran Shadowfang on my Forsaken Warrior more than the 45 times I have re-read the Lord of the Rings. And I look forward to my 100th running of Shadowfang in Classic, on Bloodsail Buccaneers.
I may be alone in this…but I joined the struggle for this Vanilla Renaissance because I wanted my favorite iteration of WoW WITHOUT the dread of an authentic, officially Blizzard supported iteration of WoW EVER going away,
I just happen to believe that most of the Veteran Vanilla players who are about to immerse themselves in Classic feel the same or share similar feelings.
And I apologize if I offend you, but I hope Blizzard listens to the Preservationists, and never to the crowd of folks who in two years yawn and say, “KK. I’ve done Naxx. Hey now, gimme something else to do…”
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It doesn’t matter.
This was what the Vanilla WoW private server community wanted who started the entire movement to get Classic launched. They put in work to make it happen. They met with developers. The rest of us… we are just showing up to a party we had nothing to do with.
That doesn’t mean we can’t get Classic+ or TBC later. It just means these characters, and these servers will never be those things.
My point is, it’s not going to happen.
First off I previously said I was upset I was forced to TBC in vanilla. Classic is not vanilla, rolling into TBC servers may happen maybe not nobody knows. but for sure Vanilla did not have any server resets either.
Not everyone has the time to progress at the same rate as the top 1%. does that mean they are bad? no just they don’t have as much time. Why should they not be able to enjoy/experience the content? if TBC came out in 2008 instead of 2006 a hell of a lot more than 1% would have cleared the vanilla content. the fact Blizzard pushed TBC down everyone’s throats is why few people cleared it not because they were bad.
R14 was not hard it simply required you to play 12-14+ hours a day for months. Again not everyone has that time or even desire for R14
so I guess you think that the top 1% of free time players are the only ones deserving to play classic. talk about entitled.
I agree a server or so in each server type that resets would be ideal, the idea of forcing every server to reset is stupid. And I said as much earlier.
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Not ‘resets’ just open a new server every 2 years and let us do it again.
Diff faction, diff class. Feels brand new!.
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They just can’t be happy with rolling an alt and doing things again. They have to get a shot at a Realm First. They want to try Scarab Lord.
Come on, you are a very very tiny portion of the playerbase.
I would be really against seasonal resets on all servers. One of the worst things about the pservers is that players could lose their progress. Stability and longevity are some of the best things Classic has going for it in comparison.
I would expect, however, that players will eventually ask for fresh realms or something of that nature, so the introduction of a new fresh server that would then reset “seasonally” (yearly, whatever) is something I wouldn’t be surprised to see. I wouldn’t be against that, but I probably wouldn’t roll on it.
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