But we have road signs… the analogy went over your balding head lol
so then you agree there should be no posted speed limits and people should just have to guess what the speed limit is to get a ticket?
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Think a bit longer, I believe in you.
No, it’s not exactly the same.
People who go under the speed limit will not be punished for going over the speed limit.
People go over the speed limit by a few because they think they won’t be punished. But they still can be. This might be unequal enforcement but the clear line in the sand is there: xx MPH, anything over and you put yourself at risk of enforcement.
So what’s the line here?
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Referring to yourself as a hostage over a video game about a problem that won’t even affect you…
is the definition of dramatic!
And you have to stay for 50 wipes.
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You quite literally do not know this unless you have information the rest of us don’t.
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It was sarcasm, holy crap.
You’re saying DUDE, BRO, MAN!!! Yet calling me dramatic lmao. Okay then.
Nobody is offended that you asked. They can’t give a concrete answer because spam is relative.
If you are on a very very busy high pop server, chat may move super fast. Posting once every 3 or 4 mins may be fine. It does not feel like spam to your real mates. If you are a low pop server and are one of the only ones posting in chat so your advert is annoying folks? Yeah, that is spam.
It takes some judgement to figure out the posting pattern on your realm. There is no “line in the sand or speed limit”. You have to figure out yourself what is too much.
Yes, I know that is not really fair and you want to be told how many messages per X time limit, but that is not how it works.
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You’re calling him dramatic with half your side, and the other half of your side like pumpkin-spice-latte text in here is saying the news post was a “reminder” of the social contract and to think again about leaving crap groups. So which is it from your side?
How many times do we have to tell you people to make it make sense?
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You’d have to compare to another law which would be about driving dangerously, if you’re a nuisance for other people then they can arrest you. This is what griefing is about, you can’t really give specific rules to it because depending of what you do you could get a penalty faster.
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I was joking about being held hostage and he took that to the extreme apparently.
Nope, but you’ll know it when you cross the line.
Sarcasm is a sign of being dramatic, fyi.
The people who were banned were players who were purposefully ruining keys with the malicious intent of doing so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1h0qvmz/blizzard_bans_mythic_leavers_intentional/
Beyond that we have threads on for an example Reddit where they outline that the people who were banned are people who have left hundreds of runs … just to ruin the dungeon. There’s worlds apart in terms of folks who just left the group for a reason, and those who left for no other reason than to purposefully grief the team.
So most likely, we don’t have an exact number but let’s say… it is somewhere in the ballpark of hundreds of keys wherein players have very clearly and explicitly griefed the group. As in, done it on purpose.
If you want a more analogous example, a better one would be speed cameras. No idea if they are a thing in the US but they are in Europe. In more sparsely populated areas that frequently would have dangerous roads if drivers were speeding, the government would put up cameras to spot people speeding.
The issue with those is that it meant some drivers learned where those things were (the ‘limit’ so to speak) and simply drive over the speed limit outside of the view of said cameras.
Furthermore, I did link a CS article that was updated last year. Safe to say, there are limitations here that no one need to worry about unless you are doing it to purposefully grief the group. And the concept of griefing is enough well understood that it isn’t something that’s worth ‘debating’ about.
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so then you agree arbitrarily deciding if someone should be banned based off of any amount of leaving dungeons is fine?
So my account is going to be punished at the whim of whatever person happens to think its spam?
“Define spam”
“Nah, you’re banned though.”
Do you understand how wild that is?
So my account actions are outsourced to the relative judgment of the median wow player? And these actions differ based on what server I’m on?
Do you hear yourself?
My account had literally no notice until the day I was suppressed for 1 week.
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Thought about it. We still have road signs irl, but not on the topic at hand.
I got one for you now: 
In this case - spam is when you are not going with traffic and all the other drivers notice you and report you. Figure out how fast traffic is going and go with that traffic. That is how you avoid spam reports on realms. Some are slow, some are fast. Go with traffic.
Yes, I hear myself. You should too. You are being told the same thing you would have been told by CS.
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This was very helpful, thank you.
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With their intentional vagueness Blizz gets to enforce it as they please.
Should just let the community handle leavers instead of having big daddy smol indie company swooping in like this, but i guess the right players complained.