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We want it.
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Hereâs an example of something constructive:
"Your post had some grammar issues, but I understood what you were saying. Any clarification or further thoughts about xyz issues? "
What you did, was insult, demean, and use strawman arguments where you oversimplify the actual content. Regardless, you can lay down your opinion without being toxic. Generally people who keep talking about the âcommunityâ in regards to RFD/LFD are against the dungeon finder. I would argue that the behavior you just demonstrated is the true killer of the social aspect/community.
My opinion is that the RFD feature had very little impact on the community aspect, because there are far more people I have forgotten about with whom I had to manually form a group than there are people I actually remember and made friends with.
I truly believe a more robust reporting/monitoring system (as is demonstrated in FFXIV) would have a much bigger impact on the community.
Now THATâS how you give an opinion and not just belittle someone.
Also, hell yes, I want the dungeon finder, if that wasnât clear.
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Then go play Vanilla itâs still there for you.
You are clearly a troll
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yes to RDF
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Unlikely. The devs are talking about it, and it is possible it will come in at a later date.
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On a server with over 20k players and four layers, I doubt Iâll remember playing a dungeon with you anyhow. My socializing is with my guild and friends and we use discord for that. I donât care how the group was formed. Iâm there to run a dungeon. My time is limited, Iâm not there to roast marshmallows over the fire and chit chat. The current tool is not one bit more social than the RDF tool.
Sorry you had bad experiences. I used the hell out of the tool in OG wrath and only had an issue a couple of times. Most players are decent people, yâall make it sound like everyone is out to get you in some way. âToxic peopleâ will be toxic whether using the current tool or RDF, not sure why you think the group finder will change a behavior.
The upside is, you never have to use the tool if you donât like it. Itâs called a choice. Choices are good.
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Where? I havenât been able to find this.
Same place that Blizzard discussed removing RDF. Hidden discussions the players will never see
Nah sorry I play both retail and classic. This isnât the tool from retail either.
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More like I would say the same to you guys.
Just because someone disagrees with you, doesnât automatically mean that they are a troll, I have brought up my arguments against how social interaction is killed by RDF and I have said whats preventing social interaction is you and not the system and toxicity and ninja looting will still continue to exist without RDF and I would even say there was some toxicity that happened back in original Classic and original TBC.
Again more like I would still say the same to the anti-RDF crowd, the same argument that has been either debunked or fact checked.
Is there other arguments you guys have against RDF that isnât just that it âkillsâ social interactions and it enables toxicity and ninja looting?
Hmm⌠looks you didnât read that⌠let me show the stats of your postâŚ
Your post⌠As a community, we dont want RDF has 105 likes⌠I wouldnât be surprise that is comprised as alts and the same people against RDF, it has 2.3k replies which is oof.
Where as this post and posts that are pro RDF has more likes (like this one at 172) and less replies.
I can tell the copium from here.
Anyways my glorious leader⌠do you still have the graphs that you promised us that RDF is the number one cause of Wrath of the Lich Kings failure and expansions falling it?
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This is why the pro-RDF side LOST.
You falsify your polls, you create these whine threads and fake the likes by using your alts, you even promote you tubers clickbaiting about it.
Even with ALL of that there is still no RDF.
Itâs almost as if even the Devs realize that RDF is a dangerous tool and ALL of that fake pro-RDF support is just what it is, fake.
Enjoy being on the losing side, we will make sure RDF never enters OUR community.
No, the forums as a community are not representative of the broader population of WoW as a community. Nice demon hunter by the way, keep trying to import the retail mentality.
- Dungeon Finder** is the âLooking for Dungeonâ (LFD) system [Blizzard]
wowwiki-archive.fandom . com/wiki/Blizz) introduced in [patch 3.3.0]
wowwiki-archive.fandom . com/wiki/Patch_3.3.0).
RDF was not introduced at Patch 3.0.1 - RDF was introduced when ICC was released. So your argument would not beâŚit was here for all of wrathâŚyour arguement would need to be adjusted to stateâŚwhen ICC releases, we should then have RDF as a catch up mechanic for new alts, new players, or to bring back veterans.
Yes, RDF brings âSomeâ QOL things into the fold; however, it also brings in challenges such as: Players queuing into a role they are not intending on playing because they wanted the loot reward or not waiting for a que time or players getting into an instance they hate and then leaving the group or having a player in terrible gear as a tank/healer and causing the group to take an excessively long time to complete the instance.
Pros & Cons to having it or not.
I personally have more friends & guild members NOT wanting RDF, and I know on my server, Iâve ran into alot of folks who are more opposed to RDF than in favor.
2cents
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Replied to your post, good info there. Scroll up just a post or two above this.
What polls are false to you? I see them more in favor for RDF.
Because it is a Wrath feature and Blizzard promised on keeping the re-release authentic as possible to the original back during the time was WoW classic was announced, read the line that says what is WoW classic if you want proof.
And what is your argument as to why RDF is a dangerous tool? please think of arguments for the love the green jesus that isnât the same thing that has been debated and or debunked like killing social interaction and how it enables toxicity more than manually formed groups.
Where are the graphs you claim you have that RDF killed WoW?
Canât wait to see the uno reverse card to be pulled one day.
Remember when Blizzard said no on hosting servers for old versions of WoW? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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Hello fellow Mankrikian! Absolutely wrong on the last point.
Every time thereâs been any public poll, post, tweet, or video about RDF, the results are monstrously in favour of RDF. Just because you and your 3 pals all believe RDF is bad, does not make you a majority. And until Blizzard actually shows whatever their data was behind the decision, thereâs zero reason to believe they made it in good faith and not simply because they donât have the resources to have it in for launch.
He (Rdf) brings this alot too. What he doesnât seem to get is that nobody is calling him a troll because he keeps supporting no RDF. Heâs called a troll because of his demeanor, actions, and general attitude. There have been plenty of anti-RDF people that never get called trolls because they can have genuine debates with people on the pro-RDF side.
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Yes to RDF
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This is false, we are the oppressed majority on the forums. You call us all trolls and discard our opinions, the pro-RDF crowd just bullys their way to get what they want.
3 pals?? I never eluded to how many friends/guild members/ etc. that I know donât want RDF.
Donât think you that the people who are so aggressively advocating for RDF would take every opportunity to participate in a poll; where as, the people are either donât care or are indecisive would not join the polling.
Food for thought.
And I never actually stated that I was for or against RDF. I just stated that when RDF was actually introduced, and the issues it presented back then.